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Rifters: The dethroned King of T1 frigs

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Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2012-07-28 12:01:20 UTC
awesome thinking: op ships after rebalancing should stay op...

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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#22 - 2012-07-28 13:48:35 UTC
We should buff the hell and then buff the nyx tho then we should also buff the aeon and wyvern.


Or we can always use the nerfbat

Spaceprincess

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-07-28 14:42:10 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Now, if only the Executioner could get another high and turret point...


It has 4 high slots and 3 turret hardpoints on SiSi.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#24 - 2012-07-28 17:29:54 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Rifter is fine, L2P


BHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I haven't laughed that hard since i was a little girl :)

P.s.

Constructive element of my reply: Rifter is lacking CPU - as is the wolf. Also its tracking bonus is trash due to how bad small arty's are.

And to the OP: Dramiel is not the kind of frigates. It's super trash. Daredevil is, however, the best frig in the game.

New Tormentor > Dramiel.

All new T1's > 90% of faction/Pirate frigs.

All new T1's > Interceptors
Barrak
The Painted Ones
#25 - 2012-07-28 19:09:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrak
The Rifter is just as dangerous now, it just needs to be fit differently and when it is, it is deadly, even in the hands of a newer pilot.

It needs Neut.

When you fit this and fly at range (Barrage with falloff) with a 400 plate, you can take most things down, apart from other Projectile ships.

For me, it really is a mini mini Cane.

Regards

*edit*

I love the new balancing of the Frigates. It means anything can take anything. Sure there will be some stalemates (my Rail vs Incursus ends this way mostly), but generally speaking you need to understand what you are going up against.

Use the 'look at' to try and work out quickly what you are up against. This is very useful, especially given the changes to the Destroyers too.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#26 - 2012-07-28 19:22:45 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Rifter is fine, L2P


BHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I haven't laughed that hard since i was a little girl :)

P.s.

Constructive element of my reply: Rifter is lacking CPU - as is the wolf. Also its tracking bonus is trash due to how bad small arty's are.

And to the OP: Dramiel is not the kind of frigates. It's super trash. Daredevil is, however, the best frig in the game.

New Tormentor > Dramiel.

All new T1's > 90% of faction/Pirate frigs.

All new T1's > Interceptors


My last day in RvB:
http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266345
http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266364
http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266366
http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266367
http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266437
http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266403
All those kills with the one Rifter. Then Alexander killed it with a merlin he fit with no tank and 2 webs, which killed me because i didn't figure out what was going on until it was too late.

Why does the Rifter need more CPU?
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-07-28 19:24:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Takeshi Yamato
I'm glad that a variety of T1 frigates are being flown with success. It's more interesting than seeing 85% Rifters, 5% Incursus, 5% Merlin, 5% Punishers...

Even if the Rifter is no longer as dominant in direct combat as it used to be, it's still fine because the other frigates are worse than the Rifter for other tasks, such as tackling a larger ship.

Try taking on a larger ship that has a neut in a Punisher and tell me how it goes. First, you can't kill drones because you have no web and even gatling lasers don't track well enough, second you're going to have cap issues (if you just want to keep a point and survive by keeping a rep going you'll have to turn off guns) and third you'll have problems keeping under the guns without web.
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-07-29 07:52:43 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
I dunno, the Merlin was always an incredibly strong frigate. People just didn't know....

-Liang


Correct. The Merlin has always been the secret king of T1 frigs.

Although I've been demolishing Rifters lately with my Kestral and Condor... so A LOT of it is pilot skill.

I'm back!

The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-07-29 10:47:31 UTC  |  Edited by: The VC's
Just food for thought.

A Punisher with gatling pulses, a neut and scram is not cap stable. A Rifter with AC's, neut, scram and web is.

Who is winning the cap war, who needs cap the most.



Rifter's are fine, they just need to be flown like a Rifter. It's adaptability is it's special power....





Edit. ...and speed. If the Rifter needs a buff, all it could do with is a bit more speed. Not much, just a wee bit.
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