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Context of Mining Barge Changes
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Werst Dendenahzees
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-07-26 21:32:09 UTC
1000 dps on a Talos or etc is fun and all, but that's still only 15 000 damage in a 0.5 system. It's not enough to kill even a remotely tanked hulk. In a 0.9 and up, you actually need to use tornados to gank a ship, as you'll only get one volley. This mean one battlecruiser per 10k chunk of EHP.
Callic Veratar
#22 - 2012-07-26 21:33:48 UTC
Knight Cabbage wrote:
I would like to put forward a more simple, alternative theory: Due to the extended ganking and hate campaign against high sec miners, EVE was hemorrhaging users whose main characters were miners. Now, most hardcore real industrialists have several accounts, so a loss of players in this area hits CCP quite hard. CCP tries to put a stop at this loss of players by making for profit ganking of mining ships impossible and throwing a few bones to miners.

Of course this is all speculation, but it would explain why they suddently put in these quite far reaching changes this summer, although they were initially announced for the winter expansion.


It fits with the tech alchemy, and it can act as a stepping stone towards more changes. (Gas Strippers+Rigs, Ring Mining Strippers+Rigs).
Alara IonStorm
#23 - 2012-07-26 21:36:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
I think the tank on T1 Mission Battleships is to strong. I can't gank them with a few Caty's or a solo Tornado. The situation is not much better for Lvl 3 Mission Battlecruisers.

CCP should severely nerf their tank so I can pop them easily.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#24 - 2012-07-26 21:36:29 UTC
Or perhaps by bringing about a permanent hulkdageddon and thus increasing the amount of ganking, the Goons manipulated the player base into affecting another change in the game.

Who knows.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#25 - 2012-07-26 21:39:44 UTC
Callic Veratar wrote:
Second, we know that new destroyers are coming. Possibly 4, maybe 8. Considering what we know of the battlecruiser line up, I would not be surprised if we saw a new line of more powerful destroyers and potentially an 8 medium gun destroyer.


There's a word to describe the gradual power-creep that crappy MMOs put into their games to keep subscribers waiting for the next new thing.

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Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-07-26 21:39:57 UTC
Virgil Travis wrote:
Or perhaps by bringing about a permanent hulkdageddon and thus increasing the amount of ganking, the Goons manipulated the player base into affecting another change in the game.

Who knows.


So meta it blew my mind
Callic Veratar
#27 - 2012-07-26 21:40:17 UTC
Werst Dendenahzees wrote:
1000 dps on a Talos or etc is fun and all, but that's still only 15 000 damage in a 0.5 system. It's not enough to kill even a remotely tanked hulk. In a 0.9 and up, you actually need to use tornados to gank a ship, as you'll only get one volley. This mean one battlecruiser per 10k chunk of EHP.


Take a Tornado with 8 720mm Howitzer IIs, Quake M, and 3 Gyro IIs. The guns are unbonused, and I get a volley of 4200 in EFT. Put those guns on a Thrasher with a damage bonus and you're going to get 4500-5000 volley.
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