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EoKI - On Rage
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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-07-26 06:38:31 UTC
I work a great deal with my planetbound kin. Many of my brothers express a deep-seated anger, for one reason or another.

After witnessing some behavior worthy of rebuke from my fellow capsuleers, I have decided not to chastise these individuals but instead have made the decision to personally offer one-on-one talks with any capsuleer (regardless of race or background) who is concerned that their anger or violent tendencies are becoming a problem.

Whilst I do welcome anybody who desires my council, even those from the Empire, I would point out that my perspective is of course a very Minmatar one and there may be a culture-clash. If this upsets you, then I am sorry. Conversely, this presents an opportunity for the curious.

Please feel free to comment within this thread, however inquiries should be forwarded to my mailbox.



"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-07-26 11:50:36 UTC
I do not consider myself having anger difficulties, but I would be curious to discuss the grievances of your planetside kin with you at some point.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-07-26 11:53:00 UTC
Azdan Amith wrote:
I do not consider myself having anger difficulties, but I would be curious to discuss the grievances of your planetside kin with you at some point.


An odd request, but I'll oblige to discuss it with you.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-07-26 20:45:09 UTC
In the meantime I'm opening this thread up for collaborative discussion for any and all interested in the topic, whether as a curiosity or because of personal experiences, as I can not always be around.

However, I will attempt to respond to any inquiries as soon as practicable.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#5 - 2012-07-27 22:29:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ssakaa
Halete wrote:
I work a great deal with my planetbound kin. Many of my brothers express a deep-seated anger, for one reason or another.


First summiteer to crack a good causality joke wins a weekend break for two at a Vylade water-front district.



Edited for: psychic grammar.

"Modern Life is Rubbish"
Mardon Hashur
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-07-27 22:36:06 UTC
Azdan Amith wrote:
I do not consider myself having anger difficulties, but I would be curious to discuss the grievances of your planetside kin with you at some point.


I agree with this statement and would also be interested in talking with you on the subject.

Sincerly Mardon Hashur
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-07-28 14:42:54 UTC
Mardon Hashur wrote:
Azdan Amith wrote:
I do not consider myself having anger difficulties, but I would be curious to discuss the grievances of your planetside kin with you at some point.


I agree with this statement and would also be interested in talking with you on the subject.


We can arrange that.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Mardon Hashur
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-28 15:29:45 UTC
If you could organize it would make things easier for my self

Sincerly Mardon Hashur
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#9 - 2012-08-07 13:30:47 UTC
Not so much rage as ennui and disgust...

(Is CONCORD handing out pod-licenses as party favours now, or something...? Ugh.)

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-08-08 12:19:18 UTC
Why not... lets discuss.

Anger or violent tendencies are not problems.
They are solution.

Succumb to anger, fear, rage, hatred, and you will lose all battles.
Learn to control them, channel them through your mind and body and focus on an enemy, and your strength will rise tenfold.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-08-08 12:52:13 UTC
You're correct. Or at least I would posit that you are.

Anger itself in a vacuum is not a problem. Without restraint, however, anger can cause problematic behavior to manifest.

I do not seek to destroy these emotions. Not at all. For many of us, they are an essential part of what we are.

I go as far as to say that anger is a gift given to us. My concerns lay not with the visceral feelings of anger and violence, but their misuse.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Anslo
Scope Works
#12 - 2012-08-08 14:15:09 UTC
Do anger issues at other eggers count as well?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-08-08 14:26:09 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Do anger issues at other eggers count as well?


Of course.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Anslo
Scope Works
#14 - 2012-08-08 14:30:07 UTC
Halete wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Do anger issues at other eggers count as well?


Of course.


Oh, OK. I hate my own kind then (being eggers, not Gallente).

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#15 - 2012-08-14 23:53:52 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Succumb to anger, fear, rage, hatred, and you will lose all battles.
Learn to control them, channel them through your mind and body and focus on an enemy, and your strength will rise tenfold.


I've felt a bit of fear, but it's never lasted long. Anger, rage, and hatred are rather foreign to me. This may be why I never became the military sort my parents wanted.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-08-15 05:54:16 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Succumb to anger, fear, rage, hatred, and you will lose all battles.
Learn to control them, channel them through your mind and body and focus on an enemy, and your strength will rise tenfold.


I've felt a bit of fear, but it's never lasted long. Anger, rage, and hatred are rather foreign to me. This may be why I never became the military sort my parents wanted.


I don't think that the two are intrinsically related. I'm familiar with all three sensations and evidently am not a 'military sort', nor do I feel that one of the three must exist for someone to take to such a lifestyle.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Mardon Hashur
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-08-15 10:44:12 UTC
The only type of solider that hates his enemies for being his enemies are the type who wind up dead or short another clone. To be a solider this emotions must take second place and cold calculation must take its place.

I know this is off topic but I thought that it might be helpful to figuring out why the military was never your thing

Sincerly Mardon Hashur
Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-15 11:58:56 UTC
I would disagree on a minor point, Mister Hashur.

Cold calculation diminishes the soldier it does not profit them. A soldier should employ any range of emotions lest they forsake their humanity and integrity, the difference is that a soldier learns to control their emotions and not be governed by them, a soldier learns to apply their emotions not become incapacitated by them and a soldier learns to know when to act on emotion and when to swallow it. We call this discipline.

In the rest you spoke truth, a soldier does not hate their enemies simply because they are their enemies.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution
Mardon Hashur
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-08-15 22:35:43 UTC
Calculation is nothing more than the lack of emotion that is bread by discipline. In this age were conflict rages in the physical heavens and on the planets bellow calculation is is what is needed when a solider has no need of the fear of dying. Your words are true for the mortal man Mr.Amith but they apply to those who truly die and not people like ourselves you live on for thousands of years.

Sincerly Mardon Hashur
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-08-16 10:01:33 UTC
As humans, the correct application of emotion is one of our most powerful abilities. I disagree on your assessment of what it means to use calculation. A soldier with no fear of death is less desirable to me than a soldier who fears death, but does not become compromised by it in the face of an external threat.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
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