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10% bonus to rocket DPS?!
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Ziranda Hakuli
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-07-26 08:06:03 UTC
smokess wrote:
Phill Esteen wrote:
Major Bibi wrote:
what is wrongf with just that little boost for rockets , not only are they pretty short range , and correct me if i am wrong only a few of the missile support skills are used to calculate their range and damage ,


the problem is that it's a flagrant insult to every experienced player who trained Small Projectile Turret to 3


Made me lol


lol
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#22 - 2012-07-26 08:19:11 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
Autocannons are supposed to be high damage medium range and zero cap cost for the trade off of higher ISK cost.

ISK cost is an invalid balance variable, as supercap proliferation proves.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#23 - 2012-07-26 08:32:38 UTC
Missiles do the job.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2012-07-26 08:42:46 UTC
Caldari master race REPRESENT YO!

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#25 - 2012-07-26 09:38:58 UTC
Solania Aurae wrote:
Posting in a Tom Gerard Thread©
Yea, but they are so poor these days. It's a real shame.

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2012-07-26 09:43:06 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Solania Aurae wrote:
Posting in a Tom Gerard Thread©
Yea, but they are so poor these days. It's a real shame.


I don't know what threads you have been reading, but Tom Gerard's threads has always been poor.

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Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-07-26 11:05:40 UTC
Solania Aurae wrote:
Posting in a Tom Gerard Thread©


Holy ****, I was beginning to think no one noticed.

Hello, hello again.
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-07-26 11:14:04 UTC
Cede Forster wrote:
So your argument is AC is better then anything else, people train AC for that reason, this people will be mad if AC isn't the best anymore?

Oh boy ... that be like CCP actually tries to balance things. They MUST be stopped.


That's what people said when they proposed the Drake nerf. And the Tengu nerf. And the Hulk "nerf". And they were serious.

But Tom is just trolling.
Haxen66
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-07-26 11:16:03 UTC
erm, where is this 10% bonus? upcoming patch?
Signal11th
#30 - 2012-07-26 11:35:35 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
CCP seems to have lost direction. Missiles are supposed to be low alpha, low dps, and easily destroyed. The trade off is always hits for partial damage and zero cap cost.

Autocannons are supposed to be high damage medium range and zero cap cost for the trade off of higher ISK cost.

People have YEARS of SP invested in ACs, they must remain the clear dominant system or people will simply quit the game.

If CCP wants to increase DPS it should be paper only, allowing full damage with multiple target painters. This would make the rocketnoobs happy without shifting the status quo.

Rifter = BiS frigate
Rupture = BiS cruiser
Hurricane = BiS battlecruiser
Tempest = BiS battleship

Commonality? Autocannons. We are the majority, think long and hard about the future of EVE before destroying the game, that is all we ask.



Yep another nail in Darwins theory of survival of the fittest.

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Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#31 - 2012-07-26 11:58:36 UTC
Posting in a Tom Gerard thread.

Stay classy.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#32 - 2012-07-26 12:05:59 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Solania Aurae wrote:
Posting in a Tom Gerard Thread©
Yea, but they are so poor these days. It's a real shame.


I don't know what threads you have been reading, but Tom Gerard's threads has always been poor.

Indeed.

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Kobodera
Soggy Bottom Balls
#33 - 2012-07-26 12:33:32 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
CCP seems to have lost direction. Missiles are supposed to be low alpha, low dps, and easily destroyed. The trade off is always hits for partial damage and zero cap cost.

Autocannons are supposed to be high damage medium range and zero cap cost for the trade off of higher ISK cost.

People have YEARS of SP invested in ACs, they must remain the clear dominant system or people will simply quit the game.

If CCP wants to increase DPS it should be paper only, allowing full damage with multiple target painters. This would make the rocketnoobs happy without shifting the status quo.

Rifter = BiS frigate
Rupture = BiS cruiser
Hurricane = BiS battlecruiser
Tempest = BiS battleship

Commonality? Autocannons. We are the majority, think long and hard about the future of EVE before destroying the game, that is all we ask.


I think I heard a little bird say something like... adapt or gtfo... but I could be wrong... it could have been something more akin to... Can I have your stuff?

Anyway, I can feel you... I felt the same when missile formulas changed so much that it basicly was a nice swift kick in the gonards to anyone that had trained missiles... which at the time was me... or when they switched from Cruise missiles to Torps on stealthbombers... I had trained those cruises up good, but had zero torp skills... so another nice kick in the nuts since SBs were my ship of choice... but guess what? I adapted to that too, and now I have adapted so much that CCP flavour their guns and missiles as much as they want, I can still just switch right into what is the curren flavour... took some time to get there, but in the end I think it was well worth the effort.

So... take a chill pill, adapt and overcome...
Danny Diamonds
Fabricated Reality
#34 - 2012-07-26 12:48:17 UTC
If all DPS types were at least comparable, I would agree with the OP. But they are not. Balancing is needed to bring them more in line. There is a reason that Minmatard is so popular and why many say "missiles are terrible".

All weapons should be viable, fun and effective to use. Not just the one you chose.
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-07-26 12:49:35 UTC
I trained Ellipses up to 5 but then CCP introduced new punctuation and my sp became worthless

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Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-07-26 13:02:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Private Pineapple
Haxen66 wrote:
erm, where is this 10% bonus? upcoming patch?


Same here... cannot find it anywhere.

Starting to think that this is a troll.

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Medarr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-07-26 13:20:05 UTC
Trololol.. BiS... what is this.. wow... GTFO
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#38 - 2012-07-26 13:37:14 UTC
If this is true, I will wiggle my wings in a dance of join. Add in a rework of the tristan as a missile platform, talk of a missile based destroyer... Dare I dream of finally seeing some missile love from ccp? Now if we coukd just get a 3rd mid slit for tge breacher and inquisitor! That would true rocket heaven.
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-07-26 13:48:44 UTC
bye, and can I have your stuff Lol

Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
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