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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1481 - 2012-07-27 21:41:18 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Fly a Procurer in hisec?


but i'm in a fleet with my orca alt. i'm flying my hulk!


ECM drones everywhere.
Dave Stark
#1482 - 2012-07-27 21:43:13 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Fly a Procurer in hisec?


but i'm in a fleet with my orca alt. i'm flying my hulk!


ECM drones everywhere.


10 + medium ecm drones!

more jammy than a sticky situation in a jam factory after a jamtastic afternoon.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1483 - 2012-07-27 21:49:03 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Fly a Procurer in hisec?


but i'm in a fleet with my orca alt. i'm flying my hulk!


ECM drones everywhere.


10 + medium ecm drones!

more jammy than a sticky situation in a jam factory after a jamtastic afternoon.


Jammed
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#1484 - 2012-07-27 21:52:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Soundwave Plays Diablo
Quote:
Miners have yet to go out of profit. Indeed, right now they are having the biggest boom in EVE history, all while under the gankers "opression".

Also you will have to explain to us why fitting a tank which will stop you from getting killed is irrelevant. Given that being killed is what you are whining about.


Learn math before you condescend to me good sir. Very trollish to say the least.

There is no amount of tank that you can fit to stop from being ganked, ever. Its not possible. Alpha > tank = successful gank. There is your explanation and it is iron clad.

ITT people are comparing apples to oranges, as usual. The profitability or net loss of the **gank itself* is completely irrelevant. The ability to make enough profit to overcome any losses incurred while ganking is the only sustainability factor. This is easy to accomplish. My solo l4 mission runner makes more than any 2 miners in eve. My team of 3 mission runners makes as much as a half dozen miners. Incursion running has been nerfed but it still nets 60million ISK an hour + LP. My industry toon makes as much as 1hulk +1 orca easy. running c3's? Forget about it, the miners cant even come close.

Plenty of miners have left Eve because they could not afford to PLEX any longer. Plenty have stated exactly that and are 'conspicuous by their absence' If you want to rationalize why be my guest.
Corvus Prime
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1485 - 2012-07-27 21:53:26 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
CCP saving stupid Pigs from themselves.

Why hasn't this thread been locked due to the OP's ad homs yet? Or is it really OK to call a portion of the playerbase "stupid pigs"?
Pipa Porto
#1486 - 2012-07-27 21:55:47 UTC
Corvus Prime wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
CCP saving stupid Pigs from themselves.

Why hasn't this thread been locked due to the OP's ad homs yet? Or is it really OK to call a portion of the playerbase "stupid pigs"?


Have you seen the amount of vitriol that the miners have been spewing at the gankers (or anyone who at all disagrees with them) in this thread?

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-RubyPorto
Dave Stark
#1487 - 2012-07-27 21:59:13 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Fly a Procurer in hisec?


but i'm in a fleet with my orca alt. i'm flying my hulk!


ECM drones everywhere.


10 + medium ecm drones!

more jammy than a sticky situation in a jam factory after a jamtastic afternoon.


Jammed


haha
Corvus Prime
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1488 - 2012-07-27 22:00:18 UTC
Well, what else did you expect when he opens the OP's title by calling the miners "supid pigs"?
Soon Shin
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#1489 - 2012-07-27 22:00:27 UTC
After mining arkonor for an hour and a half yesterday, I remember why I quit mining 2 years ago.

One of the most mind numbing things to do and I think I only made a paltry 36 million despite mining only arkonor and having a

boosted covetor.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1490 - 2012-07-27 22:01:13 UTC
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:


Learn math before you condescend to me good sir. Very trollish to say the least.

There is no amount of tank that you can fit to stop from being ganked, ever. Its not possible. Alpha > tank = successful gank. There is your explanation and it is iron clad.



The veldnought can be ganked if you bring enough catalysts. However there comes a point where people will not bother to gank something. Fortunatly for miners hulks can reach this level of tank.
Suqq Madiq
#1491 - 2012-07-27 22:01:15 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Corvus Prime wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
CCP saving stupid Pigs from themselves.

Why hasn't this thread been locked due to the OP's ad homs yet? Or is it really OK to call a portion of the playerbase "stupid pigs"?


Have you seen the amount of vitriol that the miners have been spewing at the gankers (or anyone who at all disagrees with them) in this thread?


Have you seen the amount of stupidity, rhetoric, lies and falsehoods that so-called "gankers" have been regurgitating all over this thread?
Dave Stark
#1492 - 2012-07-27 22:04:41 UTC
Soon Shin wrote:
After mining arkonor for an hour and a half yesterday, I remember why I quit mining 2 years ago.

One of the most mind numbing things to do and I think I only made a paltry 36 million despite mining only arkonor and having a

boosted covetor.



i remember why i gave up mission running after spending an hour and a half on 1 mission despite it being a level 4.

it's one of the most annoying things to do and i spent most of my money on ammo despite using a fully t1 fit drake.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1493 - 2012-07-27 22:06:47 UTC
Corvus Prime wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
CCP saving stupid Pigs from themselves.

Why hasn't this thread been locked due to the OP's ad homs yet? Or is it really OK to call a portion of the playerbase "stupid pigs"?



Game is dominated by one blueball and forums are dominated by the same 4-5 "kill hi sec, gas miners" proponents and CCP obey them pants down. Any other question?

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1494 - 2012-07-27 22:07:52 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Corvus Prime wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
CCP saving stupid Pigs from themselves.

Why hasn't this thread been locked due to the OP's ad homs yet? Or is it really OK to call a portion of the playerbase "stupid pigs"?


Have you seen the amount of vitriol that the miners have been spewing at the gankers (or anyone who at all disagrees with them) in this thread?


I guess their vitriol is why they can post with their main, while you are circumventing your ban on that alt?

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Suqq Madiq
#1495 - 2012-07-27 22:12:11 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Corvus Prime wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
CCP saving stupid Pigs from themselves.

Why hasn't this thread been locked due to the OP's ad homs yet? Or is it really OK to call a portion of the playerbase "stupid pigs"?


Have you seen the amount of vitriol that the miners have been spewing at the gankers (or anyone who at all disagrees with them) in this thread?


I guess their vitriol is why they can post with their main, while you are circumventing your ban on that alt?


To be fair, Ruby is a special snowflake. The filter between his brain and mouth (or fingers in this case) malfunctions often which forces him into constant shitposting and has suffered repeated forum warnings and bans because of it. Most of the pro-ganker crowd is happily posting on their main while the pro-miner crowd is unlikely to do the same in an effort to avoid the targeted ire of the vengeful ganker mobs.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1496 - 2012-07-27 22:12:56 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


Bolded the part your blinds seem to hide.


You forgot to bold the part where I gave a definitive time frame.

Oh that's right, because there's nothing to bold.

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Talus Veran
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1497 - 2012-07-27 22:14:38 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
If these changes go through I'd like to see CCP put bot hunting into overdrive. These changes will make botting all the more easier because you don't need to worry about that mining ship getting ganked.


You may have missed this. http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28628

CCP Screegs' team ramped up bot Hunting in March 2012

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1498 - 2012-07-27 22:14:54 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Do you gank and empty freighter?


Ganking a freighter effectively empties it, so yes.

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Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#1499 - 2012-07-27 22:15:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:


Learn math before you condescend to me good sir. Very trollish to say the least.

There is no amount of tank that you can fit to stop from being ganked, ever. Its not possible. Alpha > tank = successful gank. There is your explanation and it is iron clad.



The veldnought can be ganked if you bring enough catalysts. However there comes a point where people will not bother to gank something. Fortunatly for miners hulks can reach this level of tank.


You cannot accurately determine something that is subjective to other people.

Thanks for your input however.
Pipa Porto
#1500 - 2012-07-27 22:15:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Suqq Madiq wrote:
To be fair, Ruby is a special snowflake. The filter between his brain and mouth (or fingers in this case) malfunctions often which forces him into constant shitposting and has suffered repeated forum warnings and bans because of it. Most of the pro-ganker crowd is happily posting on their main while the pro-miner crowd is unlikely to do the same in an effort to avoid the targeted ire of the vengeful ganker mobs.


Actually, I forgot. Discussing moderation on the forums is bad. Mmmkay. Try doing it in the sticky that came about due to some unrest.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto