EVE General Discussion

People will still figure out a way to fit their Mackinaws without a single tank mod beyond "permatank the serpentis spy in the belt" and they'll still die to a few Catalysts. This will not change.

I could be mistaken, but I think you are assuming a sensible fit... which for your average AFK miner is not all that likely... to be honest.

If I recall the story behind that kill I'm not sure how it compares to a suicide gank as that was a consensual fight (the Mega engaged the Itty V for stealing loot). If it were a gank situation then the Itty V would have failed despite the fitting of the Mega.

If it were balanced at what the least skillful pilot could think up it would have 40-50k EHP base at low skills. It leaves room to fail, just like other ships.

Edit: If anything equating the 2 situations is like saying the Mega is OP because it could have been fit in such a way to kill the itty V even rail fit just like the Mack can be fit to make a gank unprofitable.

Omg you used mining and skillful pilot in the same sentence. Good show.

You act like it takes a great deal of specilized training to fit a Hulk with a proper tank.
News Flash: it doesn't.

T2 shield and T1 shield rig fittings take a trivial amount of time to train for, relative to training into a Hulk.

Now, players can choose to neglect that sort of training in favor of Exhumers V - but if you can't be bothered to spend half a day to train up for a Medium Shield Extender, why throw a fuss when you lose your ship?

Why throw a fuss when you looked at those empty slots and decided to put Cap Rechargers there instead of a tank?

I'm sure its frustrating to lose a couple days worth of mining to replace your ship, but eventually you have to learn to stop pointing fingers at other players and accept it.

YOU are responsible for the loss of your Mining Ship. Nobody else.

After getting ganked, instead of raging, crying on the forums and quitting the game, ALL miners should
1. Stand up.
2. Walk to their bathroom, look in the mirror and point at themselves.
3. Say: "It is MY fault that my Hulk was destroyed. There is nobody else to blame but me."
4. And then learn something from the experience.....

I never said that CCP should make Mining Barges comparable to Combat Vessels.

Efficient Mining requires that you survive long enough that losing your ship will not significantly affect your bottom line. Every other ship in the game requires support skills to do their job effectively, why should mining ships be any different?

Gankers do what they enjoy. Why do miners want to stop other people from playing the game the way they enjoy playing? If you enjoy having e-honor and losing to people who don't, that's your preference, and that's fine.

And again, why should mining ships be balanced against what the least intelligent, least skillful* player can bring to the table?

*Not SP, Player Skill. Being aligned requires 0 SP. A Meta Web requires ~250SP. Complaining about training time taking away from getting Exhumers 5 is a red herring.

In a game where violence is explicitly allowed anywhere, who else can you blame for putting yourself in a position where you're giving money to people who violence your boat?

If you didn't know that violence is explicitly allowed anywhere, who else can you blame for not learning the first thing about a game before diving into it for months?

i'm sorry if suicide ganking doesn't meet your arbitrary standards of e-honour

we'll stop because you don't like it, noted authority on what constitutes PvP

hi, this is a game

please leave your silly RL analogies at the door