EVE General Discussion

No, Miners are stupid because they cba to fit a dang tank or fly their ships to avoid ganks.

Even if it were true that they can't fit enough tank to survive a profitable gank in .5 (it's not), there's no reason they can't head to safer space where the cost to gank them hovers around the cost of the ship.

Where did I say you could? Where did anyone say you could. The only reason you think someone said that is because you never learned how to figure out antecedents.

BTW: In 1.0, you'll get 2 shots with a Catalyst. That's 2600 Damage per. That means you need about 15 T2 Catalysts. That's about 225m ISK.

Yep. Ever heard of "safety in numbers"?

'Grats everyone on this thread making it past 100 pages!

I doubt new miners find out that they need a 30k+ EHP tank until they're deep into mining skills first. In-game tutorials and such really only tell them about belt rats, which hit as hard as kittens. Even when they do find out, they have a whole week of buying and training skills before they can actually fit a decent tank. They're sure to hear about the amazing mining yield of the Hulk before hearing about needing that tank too.

Oh, did we all somehow overlook that fitting a tank involves awareness of needing said tank and requires points in fitting and tanking skills?

Sigh. I remember back when you needed to **** someone off to get ganked.

Then again, this is EVE. What they don't know powers our one-button bacon machines.

With the barge changes, I guess Mining can stay in the list of beginner career choices.

Allow me to impart unto you this amazingly useful advise, handed down from generations of jihaddists who ran on the tears of hisec bears for the better half of a decade on forum topics whining about jihadding, only slightly adapted:

1) Don't AFK jihad
2) Stay aligned. Maybe you could gank somebody and warp off before concord gets you, if you have the skill
3) Bring moar deeps bro, safte in numbers
4) Risk more expensive boats bro, safety in larger ehp
5) Pay for and use a wardec for all griefing. Yes, we do provide you with weekly wardec permits at a modest fee. Please donate a few hundred mil isk in advance to absolute strangers prior to probably not receiving any notice on the success of your application.
6) Join an intel channel, maybe they can give you the 411 in the event that Concord jumps into local
7) Set your standings so you can spot Concord easy
8) Set your overviews properly broskies
9) Stay docked until Concord gets bored
10) Move to Low-sec where Concord doesn't care to gank you if you gank some mining bear
11) Move to 0.0 where Concord can't reach you and your brosefs can provide you with safe jihadding space with helpless miners to boot
12) Move into a WH where there is no Concord, or anything else for that matter.

I've always wanted to say those things to whiny jihaddists.

The large, silent majority of the Eve community on the other hand, will try to not lose any sleep over this absolutely positive and long overdue change. It'll be hard, but somebody has to do it.

:D

X Miners. 1 Tornado 2 volleying Catalysts as they GCC.

Safety. In Numbers.

aaand i stopped reading there because we're talking about dps not ehp.

I prefer to fit my PVE ships for dps instead of max tank. Just enough tank that I can survive initial dps.



For small payment I could do that. I'm not going to throw that suitcase out if I don't get payed. That needs effort, you know.

once you fit a t2 invuln and passive em hardener you're out of cpu with 2 spare mids.

...not much point as if you go GCC in 0.5+, then you must lose your ship to Concorde.

:shrug: