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the new mining barges stats let the gankers cry
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nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-07-25 21:17:32 UTC
ok i like the new stats hell i restarting my mining skills now.

so btw Goon your whole pay out on barges when it take 3 tornados to get a hulk will be useless no one will do it.

so let mining gankers cry there sry eyes out and let me laugh at them. oh wait they will have to find real targets now.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#2 - 2012-07-25 21:19:40 UTC
Meh...so long as there's a balance between tank, yield, and hauling, I'm happy with it. I wanna see stats so I don't have to install the SiSi client.

A rokh shouldn't be the best option for mining with a tank. I'm looking forward to the emergent gameplay these changes trigger.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-07-25 21:19:50 UTC
Are you assuming miners will be tanking their Hulks? I have something to tell you about the majority of EVE players...
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-07-25 21:22:02 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
Are you assuming miners will be tanking their Hulks? I have something to tell you about the majority of EVE players...


btw max output easy done with a mack with 35k ehp or a hulk with 27k ehp

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-07-25 21:25:33 UTC
Nah. Silly miners will still go for max-yield hulks and will still not tank them. They will then still come to the forums and complain about how they miraculously manage to get killed by Destroyers and demand that something be done about this huge injustice.

Lol
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-07-25 21:27:07 UTC
as long as low sec is changed to put out 3 times more yeild and materials that can't be found in highsec easily, it'll work out.

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#7 - 2012-07-25 21:28:20 UTC
Skiff
ore cargo 17500
cargo 350
hull 6000
armor 5500
shield 6500

Barge bonus
5% bonus to shield
7.5% to all shield resistance

Exumer bonus
1% strip yield
1% Ice duration reduction

Roll bonus
200% strip yield
66.66% Ice duration reduction

Mackinaw
ore cargo 25000
cargo 350
hull 4000
armor 3700
shield 4300

Barge bonus
10% bonus to ore hold capacity
7.5% to all shield resistance

Exumer bonus
1% strip yield
1% Ice duration reduction

Roll bonus
50% strip yield
33.33% Ice duration reduction

Hulk
ore cargo 7500
cargo 500
hull 2500
armor 2300
shield 2700

Barge bonus
3% bonus to strip yield
7.5% to all shield resistance

Exumer bonus
3% strip yield
4% Ice duration reduction

Roll bonus
none
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2012-07-25 21:29:16 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Are you assuming miners will be tanking their Hulks? I have something to tell you about the majority of EVE players...


btw max output easy done with a mack with 35k ehp or a hulk with 27k ehp


A hulk can still mine more though.

What was the ehp of:

max yeild hulk pre changes -
tank hulk pre changes -
max yeild hulk post changes -
tank hulk post changes -

The Drake is a Lie
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-07-25 21:29:40 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
as long as low sec is changed to put out 3 times more yeild and materials that can't be found in highsec easily, it'll work out.


low sec yes might have better ore but low has what 1/10 the people that mine vs high sec..

like i said let the crying start and i see it has.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-25 21:29:44 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Are you assuming miners will be tanking their Hulks? I have something to tell you about the majority of EVE players...


btw max output easy done with a mack with 35k ehp or a hulk with 27k ehp


If you think that's gonna stop the dedicated, I have something else to tell you about EVE players
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-25 21:30:55 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Are you assuming miners will be tanking their Hulks? I have something to tell you about the majority of EVE players...


btw max output easy done with a mack with 35k ehp or a hulk with 27k ehp


A hulk can still mine more though.

What was the ehp of:

max yeild hulk pre changes -
tank hulk pre changes -
max yeild hulk post changes -
tank hulk post changes -


i did my own testing with my skill witch my must say are poor for a hulk pilot. you want stats get off you butt get sisi and find out.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-07-25 21:32:17 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Are you assuming miners will be tanking their Hulks? I have something to tell you about the majority of EVE players...


btw max output easy done with a mack with 35k ehp or a hulk with 27k ehp


If you think that's gonna stop the dedicated, I have something else to tell you about EVE players


Dedicated lol when your cost to kill one will be half cost of a hulk or more if you go after a mack now. Dedicated lol more like fool hardy.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-07-25 21:33:11 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Nah. Silly miners will still go for max-yield hulks and will still not tank them. They will then still come to the forums and complain about how they miraculously manage to get killed by Destroyers and demand that something be done about this huge injustice.

Lol




I never ever see "miners" complain here.

All I see are people like you, complaining "about" miners.

Funny how that works.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-07-25 21:35:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Are you assuming miners will be tanking their Hulks? I have something to tell you about the majority of EVE players...


btw max output easy done with a mack with 35k ehp or a hulk with 27k ehp


If you think that's gonna stop the dedicated, I have something else to tell you about EVE players


Dedicated lol when your cost to kill one will be half cost of a hulk or more if you go after a mack now. Dedicated lol more like fool hardy.


If their aim is to inflict damage, cost really isn't an issue to some people. You should learn that lesson.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-07-25 21:36:25 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Nah. Silly miners will still go for max-yield hulks and will still not tank them. They will then still come to the forums and complain about how they miraculously manage to get killed by Destroyers and demand that something be done about this huge injustice.

Lol




I never ever see "miners" complain here.

All I see are people like you, complaining "about" miners.

Funny how that works.


You must have some very very very selective reading...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2012-07-25 21:39:35 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I never ever see "miners" complain here.
Since this is your first time on the forum, let me start by saying: welcome!

Anyway, stick around, and you will see plenty of them, all over the place.
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-07-25 21:39:48 UTC  |  Edited by: nat longshot
Aruken Marr wrote:
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Are you assuming miners will be tanking their Hulks? I have something to tell you about the majority of EVE players...


btw max output easy done with a mack with 35k ehp or a hulk with 27k ehp


If you think that's gonna stop the dedicated, I have something else to tell you about EVE players


Dedicated lol when your cost to kill one will be half cost of a hulk or more if you go after a mack now. Dedicated lol more like fool hardy.


If their aim is to inflict damage cost really isn't an issue to some people. You should learn that lesson.


dmg cost ok lets look at that say you use 3 tornados and fittings that what on the low end 65-70 fitted each that 195-210 mil for 3 torandos for a 300 mil kill. Add in goons kicking 100mil for 10 killed yes you have killed more isk but have taken a very heavy toll to do it.

plus it just shows the only that you can really take on is a ship that even with combat drones really cant fight back and you suck so bad it the only target you can take on.

its not for damage cost are what wars are about ganking mining ships is for those with notthing better to do then play f over the guy next to you. I

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-07-25 21:42:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I never ever see "miners" complain here.
Since this is your first time on the forum, let me start by saying: welcome!

Anyway, stick around, and you will see plenty of them, all over the place.


First time? Don't make me laugh.

The crying miner is a bigger myth than Bigfoot, and you know it.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-07-25 21:43:00 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:


If their aim is to inflict damage cost really isn't an issue to some people. You should learn that lesson.


dmg cost ok lets look at that say you use 3 tornados and fittings that what on the low end 65-70 fitted each that 195-210 mil for 3 torandos for a 300 mil kill. Add in goons kicking 100mil for 10 killed yes you have killed more isk but have taken a very heavy toll to do it.


Like I said, cost is irrelevant to some people.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-07-25 21:45:58 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
dmg cost ok lets look at that say you use 3 tornados and fittings that what on the low end 65-70 fitted each that 195-210 mil for 3 torandos for a 300 mil kill. Add in goons kicking 100mil for 10 killed yes you have killed more isk but have taken a very heavy toll to do it.

plus it just shows the only that you can really take on is a ship that even with combat drones really cant fight back and you suck so bad it the only target you can take on.

its not for damage cost are what wars are about ganking mining ships is for those with notthing better to do then play f over the guy next to you. I



If it leads to more ships destroyed then it's good for the game.

Nice buff for everyone, gratz CCP

brb
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