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How Would It Work: Spaceship Turns
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Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#1 - 2012-07-25 16:48:01 UTC
I like how there are a lot fo smart assed remarks about how ships move, but so few suggestions.

So tell us, in space how would a ship turn?

Would the ship have retro rockets on the front to help turning?
Would the retros be strong enough to spin the ship, or strong enough to actually effect its course?
Would the ship spin around and fire its main engines to change course?
Would the retros cause the ship to arc through a turn?
etc...

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Quaaid
Phoenix Foundry
#2 - 2012-07-25 16:50:50 UTC
Either way. Falcon jams you and you die to the blob man.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-07-25 16:52:53 UTC
I thought you knew better than to try actual physics here.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#4 - 2012-07-25 16:53:53 UTC
Make all crew run to one side?

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Quaaid
Phoenix Foundry
#5 - 2012-07-25 16:56:58 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Make all crew run to one side?


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gfldex
#6 - 2012-07-25 16:59:47 UTC
They toss a space anchor (same device as in giant secures) to the center of the turning circle.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-07-25 17:06:31 UTC
Racing wheels and damps should be fine.

brb
Sara Zexus
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-25 17:08:46 UTC
Retro rockets are used to slow down, not to turn. To turn in space they use attitude control jets that just spray a small amount of gas (usually nitrogen) to start the ship turning. Then a second spray in the opposite direction when ever they want to stop turning.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#9 - 2012-07-25 17:11:00 UTC
Gyroscope - like compass work. Massive ship's core doesn't rotate but engine(s) rotates around it into certain position / direction and start to push ship.

Though classical chemical rockets could be ok too.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#10 - 2012-07-25 18:39:54 UTC
I get all my crew to get out and push

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TexasFire
Texas Deep Space
#11 - 2012-07-25 18:40:50 UTC
This is Eve!!! We have engines capable of warping the space time continuum.

The ship never turns. Space does.
El Cid Campeador
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-07-25 18:46:21 UTC
TexasFire wrote:
This is Eve!!! We have engines capable of warping the space time continuum.

The ship never turns. Space does.



You just blew my mind...
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#13 - 2012-07-25 19:22:58 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
I like how there are a lot fo smart assed remarks about how ships move, but so few suggestions.

So tell us, in space how would a ship turn?

Would the ship have retro rockets on the front to help turning?
Would the retros be strong enough to spin the ship, or strong enough to actually effect its course?
Would the ship spin around and fire its main engines to change course?
Would the retros cause the ship to arc through a turn?
etc...



Current physics would require propulsion both to start the turn and negate the momentum generated -- a ship would use a rocket to start the turn, and then a second rocket, firing in the other direciton, to stop the ship and keep it from just...spinning.

That said, it's EVE we're talking about. Probably quantums.
McRoll
Extraction and Exploration Ltd.
#14 - 2012-07-25 19:37:47 UTC
I am sad that no artist takes some time and adds little maneuvring thruster effects on the ships. Just some little exhausts when the ship starts turning. The Enherji bomber already does have such effects. Wouldn't look as ridiculous as it does now. Eve is probably the spaceship game with the worst flight animations by far.

I have a dream. In this dream, an Eve ship does a 180° turn and fires its thrusters to slow down when deccelerating. It also keeps its speed without firing thrusters the whole time. Sadly it's just a dream.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#15 - 2012-07-25 19:41:31 UTC
Wiza... I mean, Joves did it.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#16 - 2012-07-25 19:51:06 UTC
Fins, wings and rudders. Why do you think Minmatar ships are so much more maneuverable?

Duh!

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Baraka Saibot
Wobbling Frog Inc
#17 - 2012-07-25 19:52:25 UTC
Notice how most ships have several rocket engines on the back? Simply turn off the engine on the right side to turn right, the left side to go left etc.
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-07-25 20:06:24 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
I like how there are a lot fo smart assed remarks about how ships move, but so few suggestions.
So tell us, in space how would a ship turn?

The answer to your question seems to be rather straightforward, I'd even dare to say it's staring you in the face.

According to contemporary physics, moving faster than the speed of light is impossible. Still, in New Eden the distance crossed between one planet and the next can be bridged in a shorter amount of time than light would take to travel between these points. That's where the warp drive comes in. As the word suggests, it warps the space around the ship, pulling the destination closer so that the distance in between it and the starting location is short enough for the ship to travel it in a set amount of time at a speed below that of the speed of light. The ship is essentially barely moving, beautifully illustrated by the fact it's always on the center of your screen, no matter the distance you seem to travel.

Moving around its axis happens in pretty much the same way. There are no thrusters, retro rockets or engines, it's all in the warp drive.

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-07-25 21:22:09 UTC
i came in too late, I can't top the relies here lol

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Dubstepcat
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-07-25 21:23:03 UTC
RCS (Reaction Control Systems) or OCS (Orbital Control Systems)

Or just a gyroscope
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