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Where's your sandbox now?
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Goonspiracy
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-24 20:33:24 UTC
We exploited wardec mechanics... they changed wardecs
We gained a monopoly on tech... they change mechanics to break that
We create a permanent hulkageddon... they make mining vessels ungankable
We elect our CSM... they ban him
We run Incursions as they were intended... they make them worthless to run
We build titans and blap with them... they nerf titans
We use supercarriers as they were intended... they change the intention
We have unique regions in the game of distinctive value... they make them generic and bland (drone regions, tech nerf, etc)
We have a dissenting voice in the forums... they lock our threads to cover it up
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2012-07-24 20:35:23 UTC
This is a horrible troll alt and you should feel bad.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-07-24 20:35:26 UTC
Posting in a thread created by some random non-goon.

This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
marVLs
#4 - 2012-07-24 20:35:30 UTC
So leave. Leave now.
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-07-24 20:38:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Goons secretly control CCP...

Turns out they are just really good at making sure they don't have any advantages.

Who knew. What?
scimichar
Deep Hole Explorers of New Eden
#6 - 2012-07-24 20:38:54 UTC
preach it brother, ccp has an ex goon as a dev and the goons are in obviously in control of ccp
Dr Penisburg
Strange Energy
#7 - 2012-07-24 20:38:57 UTC
This thread is informative, factual, and compels me to engage in constructive discussion regarding EVE Online. Tell me more, good sir.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-07-24 20:39:14 UTC
Who are this “we” you're talking about?
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-07-24 20:39:42 UTC
Meh.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#10 - 2012-07-24 20:41:04 UTC
Trying too hard.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#11 - 2012-07-24 20:48:33 UTC
My sandbox is in the corner, waiting for the right body.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#12 - 2012-07-24 20:49:36 UTC
Hedion University sure did some things.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#13 - 2012-07-24 20:53:30 UTC
WELCOME TO THE GOVERNMENT

and Hulks are FAR from ungankable even after the number we have supposedly for Infero1.2.....pffft

The Drake is a Lie
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#14 - 2012-07-24 20:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuehnelt
Many of your instances of 'we' are countered by other instances of 'we'. In most of your examples it's true that the first 'we' is using mechanics as given whereas the second 'we' is asking CCP to change those mechanics, but the mechanics are still from CCP in the first place, who have a greater interest in making a good game than in never changing mechanics just so that they won't ever disadvantage anyone with a change.

And honestly, 'sandbox' is just a dumb term. If you have a real point, and don't just want to try to bludgeon CCP with a stealthed charge of hypocrisy, then you'll be able to make that point without reference to sandboxes.

Goonspiracy wrote:
We create a permanent hulkageddon... they make mining vessels ungankable


Bots will use the Hulk. Players wanting to be bots will use the Retriever. Nobody will use the Skiff, the one with the battleship-sized tank. What CCP is doing with mining vessels is prefitting them for dumb miners: instead of having to decide to tank or maxyield a Hulk, miners can make the easier decision to fly a Skiff for a tank or a Hulk for max yield or a Retriever for max AFK or--. They're also making it easier for us to reply to miners: instead of having to come up with example tanky fits, we can just say "fly the Skiff if you don't want to die." "Oh, you got ganked? In a retriever? l2skiff." Future threads on ganking are going to be pretty streamlined.

Exhumers will still explode.
stoicfaux
#15 - 2012-07-24 21:00:40 UTC
If you wear spandex, and you notice that establishments suddenly have restrictive dress codes, maybe its time to stop wearing spandex?



Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Ms Kat
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-07-24 21:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ms Kat
10/10 Bravo!!!


The best thing about this... noone and i mean noone can pick fault in a single one of your points made. \o/ *high 5*




*Edit*

We are one
We are legion
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-07-24 21:06:37 UTC
Goonspiracy wrote:

We have a dissenting voice in the forums... they lock our threads to cover it up



lets lock this thread to cover you up

R.S.I2014
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#18 - 2012-07-24 21:06:48 UTC
Goonswarm: Showing CCP what is broken since... whenever they started.
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-07-24 21:11:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Clone 77777
Goonspiracy wrote:
We exploited wardec mechanics... they changed wardecs
We gained a monopoly on tech... they change mechanics to break that
-The game is supposed to be playable aswell, y'know, even if its a sandbarrel.

We create a permanent hulkageddon... they make mining vessels ungankable
-They are far from ungankable, but again, they need to make it harder, again the whole "Game is supposed to be a game thing.

We elect our CSM... they ban him
-He got himself banned.

We run Incursions as they were intended... they make them worthless to run
-They were retardedly easy and gave way too much of a reward for what it took to do them.

We build titans and blap with them... they nerf titans
Balance in a game is good.

We use supercarriers as they were intended... they change the intention
-Its CCP's game and if they feel a ship class is better suited for another role then its CCP's right to change that.

We have unique regions in the game of distinctive value... they make them generic and bland (drone regions, tech nerf, etc)
-Drone goo made mining less viable of a proffession, like it or not, some people do mine. And we do have regions/solar systems that are better/different, they are categorized under securty status, the lower it is, the more valueable those regions/solar systems will be.

We have a dissenting voice in the forums... they lock our threads to cover it up
-Stupid threads like this one should be locked, as to not make the forums worse than they already are.


Responds are in the quote.

People take the whole "sandbox" way to far.

DURR WHY CANT I DESIGN MY OWN SHIP AND PUT IT INTO PRODUCTION I MEAN ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A SANDBOX etc etc.
And if you think about it, a sandbox, a box full of sand, its not like your creativity is the roof, you cant make a working car from sand. Atleast we can make working spaceships in CCP's magical sandbox though, so stop whining.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-07-24 21:17:12 UTC
tl;dr Mittani's master plan is to turn EVE into Hello Kitty Online

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