Crime & Punishment

I'm looking for a minimum training plan for some solo high sec ganking. The group of bots I'm targeting have similar fits, the one below being the best of the bunch, others have varying degrees of lesser tanks.

Even though this will not always be the case, I'd like to assume the ganks will take place in a 0.7 system and target's relevant skills are all V's.

[Hulk]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Small Shield Extender II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

EHP: 12,198 (uniform damage profile - EX/KIN ~1500EHP less)
EM 71.9 TH:77.5 KN:62.5 EX:65
Sig: 160m

I'm not particular on race or weapons, my #1 priority would be to minimize training time. Cost of ships, skills, fitting, implants - within reason - should not be a problem. Obviously I'll need to train the weapons, hull, thermodynamics, but unsure how far I need to take these skills and what support skills will be most helpful.

Mostly I'm unsure what hull and weapons I should going for, the rest should I should be able to discern from EFT.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

thanks

Lol...great response. About what I expected, but I'll bet someone gives me a good answer or two, so no worries.

Obviously I'm a huge carebear and have no ganking experience, but doesn't mean I'm trolling.

You would think with all the whining children like you do about carebears, when one actually wants to blow some sh*t up, you might be more helpful.

After you do your destroyer training, start working on BCV and corresponding weapon systems. After update you will need them as things stand (read thread on upcoming miner buffs), https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136222&find=unread

You may be looking at a Tornado, or other high alpha ship, and may have to move down to .6 or .5 systems to catch Hulk's or Covetors and drop them in time. If they are any of the other miners, don't bother, you most likely wont be able to take them down before CCP arrives, even in those lower sec zones.

No offense, but people coming to the forum in search of "SOLO GANKING A HULK: THE GUIDE" are pretty pathetic to me.
Cant even manage to gank a hulk? Why are you even playing?

No worries, no one ganks hulks

Are you trying to act as if the fit in your OP is a Tanked hulk? Slapping on 2 hardeners hardly makes for a tank.
See a damage control, shield rigs etc on it then we'll talk.
And obviously, you dont understand my post, so Ill make it simple for you: Ganking a hulk is the most pathetically easy thing to do, regardless of sec status, as sec status rises it more or less just becomes more expensive. 2 People can gank a hulk in 1.0 sec space but it will cost them, hell, maybe 1 guy can do it, I dont quite have the numbers.
So need advice on how to do it just proves that youre some kind of "want to be pvp'er but is too scared/dumb/ignorant/clueless/boring/unimaginative/etc"

Whining that Im posting on ZE ALT is the oldest sorta argument ever, when thats the only thing people can come up with, you know you've won. Try again.

Thank you for your interest in the "Ganking for Profit and Tears" program. To get you started I'll give you my best bits of advice. I would suggest for solo ganking that you use a T2 fitted Catalyst since the Hulk had a small buff to EHP recently, especially if you are ganking tanked Hulks in anything other than 0.5 space. So, here we go:

[IMPORTANT TIP FOR GREAT SUCCESS: Do NOT start shooting until you are at least 2km from him. Have a scout bookmark a can he's using or use scan probes to quickly get his position in the belt and squad warp you on top of the Hulk. I like scan probes - especially since miners rarely ever check d-scan. Locate belt he's in, warp to at least 14.5AU away, drop probes, put to 1AU, situate them over the belt, scan and pull the probes back just in case he is paying attention.

1.) Gunnery Gunnery Gunnery.

• Gunnery 5
• Rapid Firing 4
• Small Hybrid Turret 5
• Motion Prediction 3
• Small Hybrid Turret Specialization 3-4
• Sharpshooting 3-4
• Surgical Strike always a plus! Get it to 3-4. It increases your alpha.
• Weapons Upgrades 4 - You'll want to use Magnetic Field Stabilizer II's if going solo on a tanked Hulk.
• Thermodynamics 1-2 (not a Gunnery skill, but you'll always want to overheat your guns for maximum dps)

2.) Fitting Skills

• Engineering 5. No ifs/ands/or butts. You're gonna need all the powergrid you can get
• Electronics 5 - CPU's gonna be tight. This will be a necessity I believe.
• Advanced weapons upgrades 1-2. Helps and takes very little time to train if you are still needing powergrid.

3.) Propulsion Jamming (gotta keep the bears from running away!)

• Propulsion Jamming 1
• Navigation 2

4.)Optional (but helpful)

• Jury Rigging 3
• Hybrid Weapon Rigging 1-3 (depending on how much their drawback affects your fittings)

This is not an exhaustive list, but it should yield good results. I've honestly had better luck doing it with 2 T1 fitted Catalysts pilots that have decent gunnery skills and maybe a 2% Surgical Strike implant.

Now - to the ideal fit!

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[Catalyst, Ganker T2 Neutrons]

8x Light Neutron Blaster II (Void S) - 160 rounds

Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I

3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I


[optional modifications to play with - remove a mag stab, put in a sensor booster with scan resolution script, and swap out the Small Processor Overclocking Unit for a Collision Accelerator Rig. It'll help you lock them faster and you may get off an extra volley or two and possibly catch the pod.
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Now I know what you may be saying. It looks pricey, and it kinda is. Probably around 16mil. Keep in mind though that with a good friend to act as scooper and salvager to clean up the carnage you should easily make back what you put into this ship and probably a lot more. T2 salvage from the Hulk and getting your guns and Mag Stab II's back is your first priority. If you net a single Intact Armor Plate from the Hulk you are pretty much already back in the black for the loss of your ship.

Also, if you don't care about the security status of your ganker toon and want to ensure that it's more difficult for the miner to come back and get his crap, pod him if you can while you're at it. You probably won't have much time now that Hulks have had a small buff to EHP and if it's above a 0.5 system, but always go for it. You'd be suprised what some people have in their pods. I got a pod recently worth about 760mil! Don't forget to scoop the corpse. They are always a nice trophy to have.

Also, have your scooper either grab his ore if he's jetcan mining and use it to build more Catalysts. If you have no interest, flip the can and blow it up. It's hilarious and an extra slap in the face.

Happy Gankivus! (it's a new holiday, dontcha know?)

Awesome, thanks! I do have alts for warp in and salvage. I also intend the pop the pods if given the chance. Gonna try some runs on sisi with an alt i have trained up already and see how it goes.

Popped a Hulk in an 0.7 three weeks ago in virtually the same catty fit as Daemon provided.

Hulk was fitted thus:

SSE II
Invul II
Small SB II

2 x Med Core Def Field Purgers

Alt has fairly mediocre gunnery support, but I have installed a couple of +3 damage hardwirings which helps. It's unlikely you're going to get podded unless you're a total c*ck, so shove 'em in.

Unless your going to use a Tornado, I don't know of any other ship short of a fully skilled T2 fitted Brutix that will put out the relative DPS you'll need. Remember, you want to try to make back as much ISK as possible from ganking for a sustained campaign.

But, if you got the ISK and really don't care, go for broke. An Arty Nado will typically do 8,000-10,000 dmg/volley but with the slight EHP buffs on Hulks it may not be enough to get a 2nd volley off to kill the damn thing before Concordokken.