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Kathleen Nolan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-07-24 17:29:50 UTC
hi ok, so I've been doing some research
Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself.
POS in hisec is possible?
what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage?
Lilliana Stelles
#2 - 2012-07-24 17:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilliana Stelles
It can't be done anymore. The ones that exist now have been there for years.

Edit: Other question: A pos can be anchored in .7 or lower, but will be unable to construct caps.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#3 - 2012-07-24 17:36:30 UTC
The only caps allowed in high sec are ones that were built there LONG ago. There are no facilities available in high sec that can construct capitals and the ones used at POSes can't be anchored in high sec.

Capitals can only travel via WH or jump drive with a cyno at the destination and all high sec system are "cyno jammed" so getting an existing cap into high sec is also not possible.

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Kathleen Nolan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-24 17:36:59 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
It can't be done anymore. The ones that exist now have been there for years.

is the cap construction module not allowed?
or something else?
Lilliana Stelles
#5 - 2012-07-24 17:41:18 UTC
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
It can't be done anymore. The ones that exist now have been there for years.

is the cap construction module not allowed?
or something else?


Cap construction modules aren't needed for making caps in the first place. An xlarge or npc station can do that.
You literally just can't assemble them in high sec.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#6 - 2012-07-24 17:58:59 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
It can't be done anymore. The ones that exist now have been there for years.

is the cap construction module not allowed?
or something else?


Cap construction modules aren't needed for making caps in the first place. An xlarge or npc station can do that.
You literally just can't assemble them in high sec.


Yeah I think that's what she meant...

The capital assembly array is the super massive one used to build super capitals such as an Erebus or a Nyx. The X-Large assembly array can be used to build rorquals, carriers, dreadnaughts, and freighters.

Neither of these two POS modules can be anchored in highsec. NPC stations in high sec are also incapable of build capitals but low sec NPC stations can.

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Kathleen Nolan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-24 18:37:22 UTC
so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu?
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#8 - 2012-07-24 19:03:41 UTC
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu?


If there is one, it'll run you a few billion ISK because it'll be a collectors item. And if you do acquire one, you can pretty much only use it for mining. Using a highsec capital for PvP or PvE (including missions) will result in a GM teleporting you to a random low/null system.

If you want to use a carrier in missions, you have to go to low/null, there's no way around it. I know it sounds like an uber mission boat to you, but you just can't use it in highsec (most lvl 4s are gated anyways, which means you could only get it into a tiny fraction of them to begin with). If you're looking to upgrade your highsec mission boat, switch to a pirate BS or a marauder instead.
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#9 - 2012-07-24 19:04:01 UTC
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu?


I wouldn't hold your breath, there's only a few caps in all of high-sec and there isn't much of a chance that the owners will be selling them anytime soon. What are you planning on doing with it anyway? You really can't run missions with one, and they would be very limited in high-sec PvP.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#10 - 2012-07-24 19:04:51 UTC
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu?


And in all likely hood there isn't one. If you DO happen to find one it's probably going for the price of a titan. High sec caps are VERY rare.... you're better off trying to buy a Guardian-Vexor or something.

I have also heard that the owners of the "grandfather caps" aren't allowed to sell them, but I haven't been able to confirm it.

Even after all of that, you find a person selling the carrier you want and you have the 100 billion to buy it, CCP has rules in places to prevent you from actually using a cap in high sec. The grandfather caps are meant to be little moving bits of history. If you are caught using it for any actual combat then it will be removed form high sec, never to return. Besides his veldspar obsession, this is why Chribba's Revelation in Amarr only can mine.

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Lilliana Stelles
#11 - 2012-07-24 19:09:10 UTC
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu?

I thin you're going about this the wrong way,
The best solution would be to move to low or null if you want a Thanatos. There, you can even run missions in it if you so desired.

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-24 20:50:20 UTC
From https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6372

CCP Spitfire wrote:
Sales of capital ships in high sec are hereby prohibited, be it on the regular market or through the contract system.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#13 - 2012-07-24 21:22:52 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
From https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6372

CCP Spitfire wrote:
Sales of capital ships in high sec are hereby prohibited, be it on the regular market or through the contract system.


What about dropping it in space un-piloted in exchange for a "donation"? xD

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-07-24 21:33:19 UTC
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
hi ok, so I've been doing some research
Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself.
POS in hisec is possible?
what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage?


If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-07-24 21:33:40 UTC
Secret trade! With CCP none the wiser!

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Lyric Lahnder
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-07-25 13:19:25 UTC
YOU CANNOT USE CAPITAL SHIPS IN HIGHSEC

THAT IS ALL.

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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-07-25 16:44:17 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
hi ok, so I've been doing some research
Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself.
POS in hisec is possible?
what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage?


If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one.

Nice grammar, and why not, if they have the isk to buy one why shouldn't they own one?

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-07-25 18:00:03 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Moonlit Raid wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
hi ok, so I've been doing some research
Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself.
POS in hisec is possible?
what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage?


If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one.

Nice grammar, and why not, if they have the isk to buy one why shouldn't they own one?


Because any pilot who wants a capital usually did some research and already knows that they can't be used in high-sec.

With this question I can only imagine the second the OP finds out a carrier can't use normal gates and gets ganked on it.

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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-07-25 19:14:01 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Moonlit Raid wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Kathleen Nolan wrote:
hi ok, so I've been doing some research
Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself.
POS in hisec is possible?
what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage?


If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one.

Nice grammar, and why not, if they have the isk to buy one why shouldn't they own one?


Because any pilot who wants a capital usually did some research and already knows that they can't be used in high-sec.

With this question I can only imagine the second the OP finds out a carrier can't use normal gates and gets ganked on it.
So? their lighter wallet and vacant hangar will be all the explanation they need.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#20 - 2012-07-26 09:09:34 UTC
Lyric Lahnder wrote:
YOU CANNOT USE CAPITAL SHIPS IN HIGHSEC

THAT IS ALL.
Depends on your definition of use, as I have no problem at all using my caps in high-sec.

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