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WARNING: Isk doubler Scammers... and the ONE Exception

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Kylie Aideron
Doomheim
#221 - 2012-09-13 23:45:18 UTC
Well its a good lesson for people if anything good can be pulled from it. And while I dont suggest risking your money I did make a good bit from her just testing out the lie. Im surprised someone hasn't come up with a better system because honestly she cheats you and then makes up the worst excuse. A real con wouldnt be discovered so easy. But then a real con doesnt waste time with fake money either.
Nostradamouse Riraille
S.M.U.G.G.L.E.
#222 - 2012-09-14 07:30:14 UTC
Scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
eddie valvetino
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#223 - 2012-09-14 10:36:42 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Another Corp to add to my future war dec list.

I love this game.


my god that most be a long list, so many idiots... so little time
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#224 - 2012-09-14 13:25:03 UTC
eddie valvetino wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Another Corp to add to my future war dec list.

I love this game.


my god that most be a long list, so many idiots... so little time


If you aren't careful, you may be added to his list...

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.

Larontra
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#225 - 2012-09-15 04:52:08 UTC
Im going to get a final "review" for everyone.

What if I was going to frap *record* the process?
Would you be willing to double, tripple, etc yada yada?Evil

If you say no then you will be out of the game.
If you say yes and go along with the transaction? Then you will have your proof, if you are indeed legit.

The question is are YOU willing to take the chance?

And what if I do it on one of my alts that you will have no idea of who I am?
Or would u require me to do it on this my main?Big smile

See i can play the game also, but Ill play it MY way.
kodiac III
Doomheim
#226 - 2012-09-15 05:03:55 UTC  |  Edited by: kodiac III
Ok so you guys need to take a moment and read how 80% of the people saying that she paid them back responded back.

There is many, points that you can see she uses many alts to reply to, well herself. I have worked for the Us Government for 21 years as a Hand Writing Specialist. I have also spent 4 years profiling those that commit fraud using the usmail mail service.

I found 14 key indicators in how the people "reply to her" If you take the time to look, and truly read how those posts are worded, and how the punctuation is assembled it becomes obvious that she spent little time trying to hide it from all of you. Being that she is not stupid and GREED will, and does take hold of people she has amassed most likely over 100 billion isk.

Choose to play, and win thats great, but your chance of losing is very high. I suggest that 2/3 of the posts are her alts and are fake. As always I wish you all the best, and fly safe!


Eugene M.


Edit: Adding to my post-

To Larontra- Im going to guess that she will either pull the .10 excuse, or she will cut you off at the point of 2 trials at the "game"
If she does follow her rules and pays out I will retract my statement, not because I believe she is legit, but because I would have been wrong about my prediction about her scamming you, and only you.

I will try this myself to give more credit to this thread, be it good for her or bad.
JusFooling Around
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#227 - 2012-09-15 19:52:22 UTC
kodiac III wrote:
Ok so you guys need to take a moment and read how 80% of the people saying that she paid them back responded back.

There is many, points that you can see she uses many alts to reply to, well herself. I have worked for the Us Government for 21 years as a Hand Writing Specialist. I have also spent 4 years profiling those that commit fraud using the usmail mail service.

I found 14 key indicators in how the people "reply to her" If you take the time to look, and truly read how those posts are worded, and how the punctuation is assembled it becomes obvious that she spent little time trying to hide it from all of you. Being that she is not stupid and GREED will, and does take hold of people she has amassed most likely over 100 billion isk.

Choose to play, and win thats great, but your chance of losing is very high. I suggest that 2/3 of the posts are her alts and are fake. As always I wish you all the best, and fly safe!


Eugene M.


Edit: Adding to my post-

To Larontra- Im going to guess that she will either pull the .10 excuse, or she will cut you off at the point of 2 trials at the "game"
If she does follow her rules and pays out I will retract my statement, not because I believe she is legit, but because I would have been wrong about my prediction about her scamming you, and only you.

I will try this myself to give more credit to this thread, be it good for her or bad.



ummm, the skill you described is that of a Forensic Linguist, not hand wwriting analysis. Forensic Linguists study patterns of wording, tense, use of contractions, punctuation and other quantifiable variables using either hand written or typed samples to determine if multiple documents had the same author and make no attempt to determine the truth of the statements in the sample documents. A couple of the earliest and public uses of Forensic Linguists were in the Uni-Bomber case and the JonBenet Ramsey case. Handwriting analysts concentrates on the style of penmenship to interpret personality traits and intentionality. Forensic Linguists are few in numbers, the specialty emerged just a few years ago, first with a few universities offering it as a Master's degree, then it became available as Ph.D. and has been widely accepted as a legitimate science by nearly every court system in the United States, but I am not sure if it has been used in a case before the SupremCourt. Handwriting analysis is much more subjective and is rarely trained in the established academic world and has had spotty legal acceptance due to the vastly different forms of training and squishy accreditation standards for courses that range from a weekend seminar to an elective at small colleges which usually have no nationally recognized accreditation.

I am not disputng your post or doubting your claims, I am merely elaborating on what I believe was your attempt to honor the virtue of brevity.

My belief is that anyone who wants to give away isk, will give away isk. The players who create silly rules and/or require an advance payment in order to receive a gift of a larger return are scammers. Some will "rent" endorsements by actually honoring small amounts while waiting for the larger amounts to arrive after their rented endorsements and the the endorsements of their alts have encouraged the greedy to venture what the scammer will deem profitable amounts. If the scammer "absorbs" the small amounts, the screams of scam will begin sooner and will have nothing except the scammer's alts to counter them, thus taking the scammer's time away from the main effort of reeling in the big fish. Rental endorsements are a much easier alternative for a scammer working alone, as the rented endorsements will often come from a player with more game history than a scammer's alt and probably some name recogniton in the the targetted system.

With the number of players who fall prey to these blatantly bogus offers, I can understand why my personal email accounts get filled with so many weak scam attempts. Certainly, if players fall for the crap scams in here, they must be making scammers in the real world rich, too.
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#228 - 2012-09-15 20:18:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Singeabooty Raj
JusFooling Around wrote:
The players who create silly rules and/or require an advance payment in order to receive a gift of a larger return are scammers.

That is a broadbrush allegation with nothing substantive to back it up as veritas thereby I call it out as folly and tantamount to the little boy crying wolf when the flock are indeed safe under the watchful guise of the shepherd.

Black Man with Goggles

Antaire Riggers
Shadow Legion X
Seriously Suspicious
#229 - 2012-09-19 19:39:35 UTC
erotica 1 is a complete scam... she will double your isk if you read rules to bait you then basically laugh n your face...

don't ever trust any isk doublers.

i have logs and screen shots =)

you dirty dirty scammer
Nik-Nak
Doomheim
#230 - 2012-09-19 20:28:39 UTC
Antaire Riggers wrote:
i have logs and screen shots =)

I have logs and screenshots also of when you said those naughty things that made me blush *tee hee* but unless i post them to back up my assertions then my words are empty just like yours.......

you dirty dirty lack of evidence provider
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#231 - 2012-09-19 21:37:32 UTC
Erotica 1 Is this isk doubling business still in business??

I got A jump freighter coming out of the cooker in a few days that I intend to sell. I am willing to risk my 1.6 bil profit I have in it (If I can sell it at current market value) if this is actually legit.

Be a nice boost to my indy corps bank roll. might actually be able to keep a jump freighter for personal use rather than selling to pay the bills.
Zukaris Ijonen
Jitter Necks
#232 - 2012-09-19 22:32:00 UTC
I actually saw this in Jita a while back, and I sent 50m thinking there's no way I will get this back.

To my surprise my wallet blinked and there was 100m sitting there.

In my experience, Erotica 1 is legit.
Lost Monkeys
Killer Sea Monkeys
#233 - 2012-09-20 14:39:26 UTC
We will see how legit this is.

sent some pocket change 50,000,000 isk as per your Bio.

Not online at the moment but i'll give you a couple days.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#234 - 2012-09-20 14:55:27 UTC
I'm still waiting on confirmation from Erotica 1 that this business is still running. She has not posted in this thread for a while.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#235 - 2012-09-20 14:57:25 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Erotica 1 Is this isk doubling business still in business??

I got A jump freighter coming out of the cooker in a few days that I intend to sell. I am willing to risk my 1.6 bil profit I have in it (If I can sell it at current market value) if this is actually legit.

Be a nice boost to my indy corps bank roll. might actually be able to keep a jump freighter for personal use rather than selling to pay the bills.



I am very much still in business, just took yesterday off to do some housework. I'm gonna login now and double everyone in the queue.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Lost Monkeys
Killer Sea Monkeys
#236 - 2012-09-20 15:03:45 UTC
Well that was fast.

Confirming Erotica 1 is legit. Sent 50 mil got 100 mil back.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#237 - 2012-09-20 15:17:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
50,000,000 isk sent.

All I got at the moment will have much more when my jump freighter sells.

Do you have to use all 3 in one day or can I wait a few days to play again?

Edit: got 100 mil back confirming this is legit.
Lost Monkeys
Killer Sea Monkeys
#238 - 2012-09-20 15:31:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Lost Monkeys
Sent 250 mil for round two.

Sucks we can only go 3 times. Wish I had more cash work with.

A little slow second time around. Still waiting. I though you would wait until round 3 to scam me...

EDIT:

Sorry for the lack of confidence. It must be a busy business. Got my 500 mil . Still in shock that this is legit and not a scam.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#239 - 2012-09-20 16:33:29 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Erotica 1 Is this isk doubling business still in business??

I got A jump freighter coming out of the cooker in a few days that I intend to sell. I am willing to risk my 1.6 bil profit I have in it (If I can sell it at current market value) if this is actually legit.

Be a nice boost to my indy corps bank roll. might actually be able to keep a jump freighter for personal use rather than selling to pay the bills.



I am very much still in business, just took yesterday off to do some housework. I'm gonna login now and double everyone in the queue.


Housework for Erotica 1 involves rotating the bottles of his vast collection of vintage tears. I heard he has a bottle from 2003 that was first soaked in Oak...

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.

jimmyjam
Fire Mandrill
#240 - 2012-09-20 17:16:18 UTC
This thread is amusing Big smile