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WARNING: Isk doubler Scammers... and the ONE Exception

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#1 - 2012-07-24 16:19:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Erotica 1
Hi felllow capsuleers!


I just wanted to let everyone know to be careful in Jita.

Some trolls have decided to copy my isk-doubling business. Their chat messages and bios look very similar to mine, but there is a catch! They are NOT doubling isk!

For a little of a backstory, I never tried th isk doublers until I had around a billion isk built up. Then I decide to see which ones were legit and which ones were not. I found the following two types, and then I created the third:

1. Idiot Scammers- these scammers would take any and all isk and not return anything. They appear sometimes to be bots because they engage in zero conversation. These people are idiots and make the least because they scam on the very first try.

2. Smart Scammers- these scammers will double your isk at the lower levels and then keep it at the higher levels. They make more than the ones above, but still limit themselves with their small thinking.

3. Legit Business- this is what I started. I found that by setting up rules in bio and telling people to read rules, that I would get so many inelligible investments to pay for all my legit doubles! It sounds crazy and scammy, but it works like crazy. It started as a test, but still to this day I get enough people that fail at reading simple rules to pay for all my doubles and triples and beyond. Now I get more business from referrals than from chat in Jita. Thankfully people just send others my way as "legit" and most do not explain rules much lol

... so back to my story. I had been broke for so long. I would build up some isk, then spend it all on toys. Then one day some guy came into local chat and was giving away tons. I managed to get about 400m from this stranger.

I realized that I had to turn this into something instead of spending it all, so I started training up my market skills and looking at trading. Before long, I made it to 1 billion isk just from buying low and selling high.

I then turned my attention to the isk doublers. Through a bunch of small amounts, generally 5m or so, I tested out a bunch of the doublers. Most were outright scammers, the #1 type above. They risk nothing but their time and keep every investment. These guys are probably poor unless they do it every day all day.

Then I stumbled across a handful of the #2's. Morgan le'Fley (sp?) was one of these. I would start at 5m, then use greed AGAINST them and increase my bets exponentially. So, 1st bet might be 5m, then 25m then 100m, or something like that. She would double a few and then stop and block you, then use alts or friends to harrass you if you complained in chat. I fronted isk to a number of friends and split the profits- tons.

Well, long story short, through the use of throw-away alts and friends, I made a killing off of these until my list of targets went dry.

I decided to test out a theory. Since it was true that people fall for the many other scams in Jita, like contract scams where there are 2 closed contracts for 1m and the 3rd is 1b, due to people being in some rush, I decided to test out whether a legitimate isk doubling business could work. I would just setup some simple rules and payout those who followed the rules. I told myself I would stop if I lost a billion isk.

Well, the most I was ever down was like 200m. It was a WILD SUCCESS!

To this day, I do not understand why so people won't take a minute to read my rules. Instead they just throw isk at me wanting it doubled. About 9/10 people fail to read the rules. It's like the 80/20 rule but better. well not quite, because keeping isk from rule breakers and paying out legit ones, probably gets me closer to 70% wins overall. But STILL... it's absolutely nuts.

Anyway, I was also surprised how long it took for people to try to mimic me.

STARTING TODAY I have a couple people knocking off my chat messages and bio. I think they are mainly doing this to troll me because they were some of the rule-breakers in the past and sent me isk to fund those that can read and are not morons.

So, I just wanted to let you guys know to watch out for them beause you might not get your isk returned, let alone doubled!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

jimmyjam
Fire Mandrill
#2 - 2012-07-24 17:43:38 UTC
Did this really need a thread?
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#3 - 2012-07-24 17:44:59 UTC
How very original and interesing.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Blobber NL
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-24 17:45:29 UTC
And you actually doubled the isk? Maby for yourself but...


Stopped readed after the first few senteces btw.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#5 - 2012-07-24 17:52:05 UTC
Can we have a TL:DR?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#6 - 2012-07-24 17:53:33 UTC

yep, just like you stopped reading this thread, people stop reading the rules. It is unbelievable how well it works. That's why I can afford to pay out- so many more people dont read than do it still makes me a nice net.

Plus, I get to play Robin Hood- take from the illiterate or lazy and give to the smart! Lol

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Blobber NL
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-24 17:59:41 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:

yep, just like you stopped reading this thread, people stop reading the rules. It is unbelievable how well it works. That's why I can afford to pay out- so many more people dont read than do it still makes me a nice net.

Plus, I get to play Robin Hood- take from the illiterate or lazy and give to the smart! Lol


Just stop smoking the boosting plants dude.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-24 18:02:07 UTC
Another Corp to add to my future war dec list.

I love this game.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Neomaro
Caldari 1
Caldari Alliance
#9 - 2012-07-24 18:12:38 UTC
Actually it makes huge sense, i admit i love to play the little random games people toss up esp. if its legit! i dont mind losing or messing up if its my own fault! Needless to say ive played Erotica's game once was mining and doing homework wasnt paying attention and failed one of the rules resulting in a loss , however i tried again the next day, properly btw, and game worked as intended, i made my money back and some on the side! Althou i wonder if she knows you figured out the rules if you can still keep playing XD I wont use numbers or list rules due to respect for someone whos legit.
MRJXD Inferno
Infernal Corporation
Ahbazon-Prime
#10 - 2012-07-24 18:22:29 UTC
I made sooo much isk with Erotica 1, It is actually really clever way to distribute isk from dumb people.
Ginger Barbarella
#11 - 2012-07-24 18:29:57 UTC
I personally find it curious that none of these scammers, including the OP, *NEVER* send me 1 Billion so I can send them back 500 million. I just don't get it.

Same diff, yeah? Huh... Maybe I'm just monumentally naive...

/sarcasm

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Zicon Shak'ra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-07-24 18:43:56 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Another Corp to add to my future war dec list.

I love this game.


You're like, my favorite person.

Wormholes are cool, m'kay?

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#13 - 2012-07-24 18:48:12 UTC

All Wardecs on my corp caused by people who rage when they don't follow rules are completely paid for by me. So if you want to send us some ships to kill, have at it. I love how the trolls come out just for fun while others play the game and make isk. I agree that 99% of what's in jita is an outright scam. You will find that out when you give my copycats your isk and they keep it. But there is a 1% out there believe it or not.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-07-24 18:49:27 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:

All Wardecs on my corp caused by people who rage when they don't follow rules are completely paid for by me. So if you want to send us some ships to kill, have at it. I love how the trolls come out just for fun while others play the game and make isk. I agree that 99% of what's in jita is an outright scam. You will find that out when you give my copycats your isk and they keep it. But there is a 1% out there believe it or not.


According to your guys record.. i can send a fleet of ibis your way and that will be to much for you.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#15 - 2012-07-24 18:51:18 UTC

I have close to 1,000 Ibis for sale in perimeter, bring it lol

But yes you are right, it is a new corp with many new players. But that's how we learn right.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Zicon Shak'ra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-07-24 18:51:38 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:

All Wardecs on my corp caused by people who rage when they don't follow rules are completely paid for by me. So if you want to send us some ships to kill, have at it. I love how the trolls come out just for fun while others play the game and make isk. I agree that 99% of what's in jita is an outright scam. You will find that out when you give my copycats your isk and they keep it. But there is a 1% out there believe it or not.


Hahahaha, you're so cute.

Your CORPORATION's killboard:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=286309

Cannibal Kane's PERSONAL killboard:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=757025

Yes, by himself he has 479x as many kills as your corporation.

Wormholes are cool, m'kay?

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#17 - 2012-07-24 18:55:36 UTC
impressive!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Zicon Shak'ra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-07-24 18:56:07 UTC
Good luck! Roll

Wormholes are cool, m'kay?

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#19 - 2012-07-24 19:36:38 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:

All Wardecs on my corp caused by people who rage when they don't follow rules are completely paid for by me. So if you want to send us some ships to kill, have at it. I love how the trolls come out just for fun while others play the game and make isk. I agree that 99% of what's in jita is an outright scam. You will find that out when you give my copycats your isk and they keep it. But there is a 1% out there believe it or not.


You guys sure showed those T1 frigs who runs the show!

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2012-07-24 19:53:37 UTC
Actually she doubled my isk
sent in 50 mil got 100 mil back
Bought a very nice Hurricane with it.
Also why so paranoid about some one giving stuff away?
Dislike the fact some one has succeeded at Maslow's hierarchy of needs?
Or jealous that some one has more money than you?
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