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Scammers in my EVE Online?

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Illectroculus Defined
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2011-11-04 16:39:48 UTC
I made a video of me sitting in Jita and explaining all the contract scams which were linked in local chat, might be helpful to new pilots (or older pilots for that matter)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wB2ubIIDUs
Ripard Teg
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#82 - 2011-11-10 22:29:19 UTC
The "Exploit the Contract UI" scam

You decide you want some Caldari Navy Ballistic Control Systems and have never used the Contracts system before, but head there because that's how you get them.

You get into the Contracts system, sort prices at the top of the column, and get this:

http://jestertrek.com/eve/blog/2011/contract-scam.png

Only, you fail to notice the thing circled in red, and instead concentrate on the thing circled in blue. You buy three Caldari Navy Ballistic Control Systems for 119 million ISK each, never realizing that the actual lowest price is far below this. The current contract UI sorts by Date Created, not Lowest Price, by default.


The "Convert AUR to ISK" scam

You get an EVE mail claiming that CCP has instituted a means of converting AUR to ISK, at some large amount of ISK per AUR. All you have to do is right click on a very official-sounding character name, select "Give Money", and copy/paste a very complex-looking line of code into the "Amount" field, then press Enter twice.

EVE can't understand what you mean by that very complex-looking line of code and converts it to your total amount of ISK, whatever that is, when you hit Enter the first time. When you hit Enter the second time, the ISK is gone.

aka Jester, who apparently was once Deemed Worthy To Wield The Banhammer to good effect.
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#83 - 2011-11-10 23:12:04 UTC
hmskrecik wrote:
Marc W2048 wrote:
Just like in the real world if you don't pay attention, it's your loss. File a petition in Eve for your own lack of attention and get a nice reply from a Dev saying sorry. What they should say is, " You were an idiot, not our problem."


Well... Unlike in EVE, if you scam in real world you are hunted down and if you're lucky enough that police find you before lynching mob does you are sent to the federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. Show me actual society or non-cult religion which endorses scamming everyone around.


I show you: http://bit.ly/tWBkuR

Remove insurance.
Darrow Hill
Vodka and Vice
#84 - 2011-11-10 23:17:54 UTC
Pro-tip # 742...

Don't play drunk.

Or at the very least, don't buy anything expensive when drunk.


Sigh, who am I kidding; when you drink, expect a surprise when you sober up.
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#85 - 2011-11-11 00:20:12 UTC
CCP Zymurgist wrote:
Some of us have learned the hard way what kind of scams are out there but hopefully we can help each other out by talking about them. So what are the most popular scams in EVE and how do you protect yourself from them, or maybe even, how did you fall for it? Keep in mind that not all forms of scamming are allowed, does everyone know what kind of scams are illegal?

I'm going to actually answer your question here.

Scams that are not allowed include:

  • Character transfer scams (get someone to pay for a character you are selling them, then keep the money and don't give them the character)

  • Impersonating CCP employees/volunteers

  • Recruitment scams now apparently >:|

  • Scams involving passwords or access to another player's account(s)

  • Scams involving real-world assets and money (this is usually illegal IRL)

  • Buying and selling things that exist on the test server (sort of a scam)

    • That's everything that I can think of off the top of my head.

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    Apollo Gabriel
    Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
    Ushra'Khan
    #86 - 2011-11-11 15:58:54 UTC
    Until you KNOW how to scam, don't touch contracts!
    Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
    Tidurious
    Blatant Alt Corp
    #87 - 2011-11-14 20:23:45 UTC
    I'll post what I've done a couple of times over the last week or two:

    The station trading scam. Probably been mentioned here a time or two, but I ask in local if anyone wants to buy *item*. I get someone who convo's me and then we settle on a price. This is when I tell them that they can save about 5-10% if we use station trading to "avoid taxes". I ham this up a bit, etc.

    Essentially, I open a trade window and put the item, let's say a PLEX, into the window, but I don't click accept. I tell them that clicking "accept" locks the trade in so it cannot be changed.

    Then, I get them to give me the ISK as a "player donation", because I don't want to "pay corp tax on ISK through the trade window", lol.

    Finally, I cancel the trade, tell them the item should be in their hangar soon, and close the window. It makes for easy ISK, and you get to interact with the person you're scamming. It makes it more fun than margin trading or that kind of scam, in my opinion.

    In short: NEVER "give isk" to a character, unless it's one of your alts. Ever. And don't station trade unless you know the person you're trading with in real life. Simple as that.
    Abelard Nightbringer
    New Foundation
    #88 - 2011-11-16 15:56:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Abelard Nightbringer
    Http://eve.rehcamretsnef.com - my little anti-scam list. Most are covered already in this thread, and I still want to do more to it. Took plenty of screenshot examples, and newer versions have cropped up here and there but of course im too lazy to post em yet. I'll incorporate everything from this thread into my page eventually. Someday hopefully it can be a nice one stop shop.
    Causalitii Eullon
    Catalyst Consortium
    #89 - 2011-11-22 03:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Causalitii Eullon
    hmskrecik wrote:
    Marc W2048 wrote:
    Just like in the real world if you don't pay attention, it's your loss. File a petition in Eve for your own lack of attention and get a nice reply from a Dev saying sorry. What they should say is, " You were an idiot, not our problem."


    Well... Unlike in EVE, if you scam in real world you are hunted down and if you're lucky enough that police find you before lynching mob does you are sent to the federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. Show me actual society or non-cult religion which endorses scamming everyone around.


    Ancient Spartan kids were taught to steal for dinner. If they didnt steal they wouldn't get to eat, if they got caught they were severely punished
    hmskrecik
    TransMine Group
    Gluten Free Cartel
    #90 - 2011-11-24 13:26:15 UTC
    Tenris Anis wrote:
    hmskrecik wrote:
    Marc W2048 wrote:
    Just like in the real world if you don't pay attention, it's your loss. File a petition in Eve for your own lack of attention and get a nice reply from a Dev saying sorry. What they should say is, " You were an idiot, not our problem."


    Well... Unlike in EVE, if you scam in real world you are hunted down and if you're lucky enough that police find you before lynching mob does you are sent to the federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. Show me actual society or non-cult religion which endorses scamming everyone around.


    I show you: http://bit.ly/tWBkuR


    Good point, I give it to you. However please keep in mind that the name "419 scam" comes from the number of THEIR criminal code describing this activity.


    Causalitii Eullon wrote:

    Ancient Spartan kids were taught to steal for dinner. If they didnt steal they wouldn't get to eat, if they got caught they were severely punished


    Could be. But I think it's safe to say that there are too many differences between ancient and contemporary societies to take strict guidance from those former.

    Anyway, EVE rules permit scams and I don't contest it. I just opposed implied justification that scams are allowed IRL too.
    Myddine Ka
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #91 - 2011-12-02 11:58:29 UTC
    Very helpful thread, thanks everyone :)
    SIWETH
    Doomheim
    #92 - 2011-12-07 23:16:32 UTC
    never buy anything in the trade window if you can help it, if you do make sure the item is repackaged and check the item info to make sure it's what you think you are buying. if the seller "mistakenly" (bait and switch) closes the trade window and reopens it again make sure the item is repackaged and check the info to make sure you know what your buying.
    positie11
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #93 - 2012-01-13 23:00:14 UTC
    From my point of view there is no such thing as a margin trading scam.

    You really need to be greedy to fall for a "scam" like that.

    There are 2 reasons behond greed that would make a margin "scam" work.

    - too high drug consumption.
    - too much alchohol consumption.

    Oh and never press the advanced button in the trade window unless you are advanced.

    Ccp should block the advanced trade button for at least 60 days for new players.