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Templar One: What did Eagle One find?
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Charlie Conway
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2012-07-24 11:29:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Conway
One question I have that Id like answered from this great book is what did Eagle One find in the Badlands Grid of Pike's Landing on page 640.



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Was it the ship that THANATOS used? Or was it something else?
Horatius Caul
Kitzless
#2 - 2012-07-24 13:13:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Horatius Caul
Charlie Conway wrote:

Was it the ship that THANATOS used?
Well... yeah.

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Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-07-25 16:42:11 UTC
Yup the THANATOS ship with a cloak and EMP smartbombs fitted on it.
LockOnStratus
Pensacola2022
#4 - 2012-07-27 10:25:45 UTC
I'm hijacking this topic quickly...is Templar one considered cannon now?
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-07-28 00:03:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Qvar Dar'Zanar
It's written by CCP. Why shouldn't it?

Edit: Inb4 the "contradictions" squad showing around without anything else than their usual void jazz.
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#6 - 2012-07-28 01:51:49 UTC
LockOnStratus wrote:
I'm hijacking this topic quickly...is Templar one considered cannon now?


Did you mean canon in terms of time? Has this happened now or is it going to happen upon DUST release?

I'm assuming all of this is happening now. We've seen a cinematic DUST trailer which highlights the events of the book. More over a lot of it is knowledge that player capsuleers will be unaware of.

I sense the DUST beta will also bridge the gap too, however the NDA prevents us from knowing.

"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."

-Cold Wind
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-07-28 16:38:21 UTC
The beta is labeled in the web as "Mordu's Legion private trials", and this is something that happens after the book, so yes, Templar One is what has happened in the EVE cluster since the begining of the year to when the beta started.
LockOnStratus
Pensacola2022
#8 - 2012-07-30 14:01:07 UTC
Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:
It's written by CCP. Why shouldn't it?

Edit: Inb4 the "contradictions" squad showing around without anything else than their usual void jazz.

Back when the book came out I was browsing on here and someone mentioned it may not be cannon. I was expecting it would be but I don't follow the eve story out side of the 3 novels that have come out.


Thanks for the answers!
Borascus
#9 - 2012-07-30 14:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Borascus
Most references to "Canon" in relation to CCP Backstory relates to "information that a character can interact with others already knowing"


In that sense, canon status cannot be applied to the Novels until there is a public display of the some / all of the content ingame.

For example, The Seyllin incident happened "ingame" and is considered canon. "secret meetings between the four empire heads" isn't canon from a player perspective as it would not be known to anyone.

Templar One may have happened in the EVE universe, but knowing it in-game would require an announcement on the news billboards, seen floating near stargates, saying "new tech unveiled that makes ground troops immortal" and even then only the public parts would be canon i.e. there are now immortal soldiers, aswell as the technology that makes it happen and any origins of that technology attached to the player-base wide "memo"
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-07-31 19:45:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Qvar Dar'Zanar
LockOnStratus wrote:
Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:
It's written by CCP. Why shouldn't it?

Edit: Inb4 the "contradictions" squad showing around without anything else than their usual void jazz.

Back when the book came out I was browsing on here and someone mentioned it may not be cannon. I was expecting it would be but I don't follow the eve story out side of the 3 novels that have come out.


Thanks for the answers!


That's the Contradiction Squad I was refering to. Aparently if CCP publishes text A in-game, then text B, and then text C, some people can come in and tell you that C isn't canon because they don't like it and it contradicts texts A and B. Even if both 3 texts have been produced by the same people. God forbid you to ask them why, the deepest explaination for how they are in contradiction will be "you can't deduce what C says from text A or B, so it must be false". Because, you know, things doesn't evolve, nor wrong beliefs were discovered to be false, nor can be things different from what they appeared to be.

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Templar One may have happened in the EVE universe, but knowing it in-game would require an announcement on the news billboards, seen floating near stargates, saying "new tech unveiled that makes ground troops immortal" and even then only the public parts would be canon i.e. there are now immortal soldiers, aswell as the technology that makes it happen and any origins of that technology attached to the player-base wide "memo"


Why do you belive that if it's canon it must be in-game? Books aren't able to contain canon? I guess LOTR books weren't canon for their universe until a game came out?
The situations where confusing canon have been solved by the author on other media (sometimes just saying it during an interview) are countless.

This sums up all this dicussion I guess http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WordOfGod

Not accepting that a book can be canon for EVE could lead you to interesting interpretations of every other work out there.
For example, the Silmarillon not being canon for the mentioned LOTR book, because hey, it's a different book, if Tolkien wanted it to be canon, he would have included it all together in the same book.
Or the Pope's word not being canon (for chirstians) because it isn't in the Bible.