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need help finding a scamer

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nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-07-23 09:52:53 UTC  |  Edited by: nat longshot
My son learned from this.

But this is more of hunting down someone because i can.

Do i think the scamer has read this post hell yes i think he has. Has he posted he could have for all i know. But he now knows iam hunting for info leading to him.

Some seem to think this is about "e-honor" of getting back because he pulled a fast one on my kid well that a small part mostly its for the fact i wanted something more to do.

Now if the scamers main has read this will he have the balls to say its him unlikely. Hell anyone could stay its them but the scamer know how to show its him.

Plus this show if players work together scamers main's cant hide behind alts in npc corps. most hate scamers so ill take a shot at makeing one's main game time a living hell.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#22 - 2012-07-23 10:04:16 UTC
I'm not the "scamer", but I wish I was tbh.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#23 - 2012-07-23 10:08:31 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
The Bio of "The Greenmachine Greenmachine" looks totaly legit.

Serious question:

If you (like in: someone) spend all the time / effort to track a very specific person down. Isn´t that cyberbulling?

While pulling a scam like The Greenmachine Greenmachine is just... a service open to everyone?

Blink
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#24 - 2012-07-23 10:09:09 UTC
I support the OP 100%. Alt busting is a very entertaining game-play. I've been involved in some operations in the past. One was an industrialist who kept operations running while war-deced by using 12 alts. All 12 alts got busted in 3 months and one of his haulers got ganked with 2B in cargo.

Sometimes you never find the alts, but it is entertaining non the less. And the more you play the alt-busting game, the more you learn and the better you get at it. At the very least, you get very good at creating alts that will never be linked back to you.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-07-23 10:20:55 UTC  |  Edited by: nat longshot
StoneCold wrote:
The Bio of "The Greenmachine Greenmachine" looks totaly legit.

Serious question:

If you (like in: someone) spend all the time / effort to track a very specific person down. Isn´t that cyberbulling?

While pulling a scam like The Greenmachine Greenmachine is just... a service open to everyone?

Blink


is this cyberbulling no it not. just like war decing someone because you dont like there bio so is this no given ccp back you hunting people in game thats they give us location agents. Iam not doing outside of the game so no very legel and well within the rules of ccp and eve.

Iam hunting someone because i can and eve lets me and looking for info in the forums is useing the game allso btw. because its linked to the game and you must have runnning account to use the forums.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#26 - 2012-07-23 10:28:03 UTC
StoneCold wrote:
The Bio of "The Greenmachine Greenmachine" looks totaly legit.

Serious question:

If you (like in: someone) spend all the time / effort to track a very specific person down. Isn´t that cyberbulling?

While pulling a scam like The Greenmachine Greenmachine is just... a service open to everyone?

Blink


Stalking people across EVE, repeatedly attacking/killing them is fine. You have to go damn extreme for it to be considered harrassment. Look at many of the alliance fights, plenty of them being grudges that's been around for five-ten years, they just keep attacking same guys repeatedly because they feel like it. Plenty of mercs have and has had 'denial of service' (blocking stations, trade routes, highsec, stalking etc) as part of what they offer. Short answer; no, it's not cyberbullying.

Alot of people misunderstand this part, they think "harrassment" means "people that annoy me". Tho, you have plenty of tools at disposal: ignore list (won't see their typing/convo), you can fight back/kill them, in highsec they either have to suicide gank (consequences) or wardec you (you can fight back), etc. It takes quite alot for this to ever be an issue that GM's get involved in.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-07-23 10:32:42 UTC
Misanth wrote:
I've seen kids type better than the OP. Am slightly confused, is it perhaps the son that is trying to get back at the guy who scammed his dad?


and yes my typeing skill suck this i know all to well but as allways thanks for pointing it out. like the rest cant tell on there own.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#28 - 2012-07-23 10:49:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Shameless Avenger
Meh, don't fall for the trolls. They are just getting your attention away from the main holly purpose: Finding the scammer.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

ForumAlt 5000th
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-07-23 11:34:32 UTC
Easy... here's alt #1: "ItchyJuffoWup".
Transient Drifter
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-07-23 15:48:18 UTC
i was "scammed" by Sandusky and all i got was a psychological disorder Sad
Sir Lomax
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#31 - 2012-07-23 17:12:32 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
My son learned from this.

But this is more of hunting down someone because i can.

Do i think the scamer has read this post hell yes i think he has. Has he posted he could have for all i know. But he now knows iam hunting for info leading to him.

Some seem to think this is about "e-honor" of getting back because he pulled a fast one on my kid well that a small part mostly its for the fact i wanted something more to do.

Now if the scamers main has read this will he have the balls to say its him unlikely. Hell anyone could stay its them but the scamer know how to show its him.

Plus this show if players work together scamers main's cant hide behind alts in npc corps. most hate scamers so ill take a shot at makeing one's main game time a living hell.


I'm not sure what I'm typing will sink in or if your just trolling, but I'm going to be as honest as possible with you in hopes that you can walk away from this happy.

1. Eve is a outlet for normally nice people to be not nice. Eve is the escape tool a great many people use to get attention that has been denied to them in almost all other outlets. Chasing people around and giving thought to people who could care less about you even in the slightest, may be slightly fulfilling, but honestly your just giving attention to people who already seek it.

2. Remember 490 some million isk is about 17$ US. Put that in any level of perspective. A gallon of fuel costs about 4$ a gallon, and you can burn that just driving about 20 some miles. How long does it take you to drive 20 some miles? I'm going to guess a bit less time than it takes you to read this post and respond to it. Some basic math shows you came here saying someone stole 38million isk? Thats a little over a dollar.... A DOLLAR! Think about what a SINGLE DOLLAR is worth to you? What other activity you can think of that could be worth a dollar could you be doing with your son OTHER than typing on C&P?

3. Buy your kid a plex, its 17 bucks, you both can't even go to the movies and get popcorn for that amount, and think about how long 480mil isk is going to last him. Show your kid that daddy can fix problems without crying to strangers about it. Strangers who will simply mock you and high five the person who brought you here. For lack of a better words to advise you, grow up.

4. EVE does have a small group of players who act honorably. They are had to find, but once found keep them close and don't lose contact with them. I personally pride myself in being trustworthy because I have found that flying alone sucks, and double crossing people means you fly alone or with a greater amount **** heads who are waiting for you to slip up and rob you. Just last night my friends and I knocked over a pos that had about 17 billion in ships and mods... My friends could have scooped the loot and bolted. They didn't, in-fact they helped me cart it out of the wormhole and drop it off in a station, where they then had a huge amount of trust and gave me all the loot. The thought crossed my mind to simply log off and never speak to them again. But I am a fulfilled person in real life and I'm not on a never ending drive for attention in my virtual life and neither are my friends. We all split the loot 2.7b each, I successfully proved to them, I can be trusted. (now the long con begins mauahaha JK)

Fly safe... and If you want to solve problems.. .don't bring it to C&P the posters here love tears... and "I'm going to get you! Tears" are savored.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#32 - 2012-07-23 17:36:59 UTC
I am The Greenmachine Greenmachine. I relish the paltry amount that I scammed. It went towards investing in my next scam. Come at me bro.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

jimmyjam
Fire Mandrill
#33 - 2012-07-23 17:58:11 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
ok look i know i will not much help with this but ill ask.

The Greenmachine Greenmachine is alt of someone and i need to find the main.

Reason my son plays eve and like all young kids like to belive people are nice and he got scamed.

Now i ask him to return the isk not much only 35mil he lost but for him thats alot.

yes he learned a leason but iam asking for good info on this guys main toon for major pay back.

any help would be greatfull in this. If your going to post and be a jerk hold your words i allready know what most will say.

Thanks for your time and like i said any help find the main of this alt i owe you one if the info is right.

Please tell us more Evil
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-07-23 18:12:14 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
I am The Greenmachine Greenmachine. I relish the paltry amount that I scammed. It went towards investing in my next scam. Come at me bro.


like i said the true scamer would have info on this to prove its him and so far you have not. lol sad really sad.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!

Nayl Mkoll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-07-23 20:10:36 UTC
to be fair what proof do you have that this was a scam...? 35 mill is easy to accidentally lose.... if you've ever tried station trading youve had a fat finger cost you some money one time or another..... +/- a '0' digit can really cost you. ask the people who made money off me when i put one too many zero's on a meta 4 mod and rather than buying 40 for a mill ish each i bought 40 for 10 mill each ish... good bye 360+ mill.... what scam is even worth the time and effort to pull off for 35 mill.


Elias Greyhand
#36 - 2012-07-23 20:19:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Elias Greyhand
nat longshot wrote:

your right but there is a thing call pay back.


There is also "man-up", "get over it" and "get a grip".

You're mad 'cause someone fell for a legitimate factor of the game. Well guess what, that's a lesson to learn for life as well as in-game; if it looks too good to be true, be sure there's someone behind you ready with the lubrication.

Nayl Mkoll wrote:
bought 40 for 10 mill each ish... good bye 360+ mill....


Or when you sold Plex for 30 million...

Also, Dan Abnett for the literary win.

"That which is done cannot be undone. But it can be avenged."

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#37 - 2012-07-23 20:35:08 UTC
Would it had been different is OP had posted something like this:

"Some guy's alt was sucking roids at the belt with a hulk afk. I ganked him and now I want to find his alts to gank them too."

Does is matter what the OP reasons are?

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

Elias Greyhand
#38 - 2012-07-23 20:48:42 UTC
Shameless Avenger wrote:
Does is matter what the OP reasons are?


Yes.

I trust "I just wanted to kill **** and this guy got on my radar.." more than "He made my little Timmy cry..".

"That which is done cannot be undone. But it can be avenged."

Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#39 - 2012-07-23 20:51:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemon Ceed
Nat longshot, it was me who scammed your naive little son. The money is already gone. I spent it all on Catalysts to gank miners in highsec. If you wanna come at me, I can usually be found in Carrou or Ignoitton, drunk and hanging out with women of ill repute.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#40 - 2012-07-23 20:58:22 UTC
Elias Greyhand wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:
Does is matter what the OP reasons are?


Yes.

I trust "I just wanted to kill **** and this guy got on my radar.." more than "He made my little Timmy cry..".


So, OP is being trolled about E-honor by people who have E-honor themselves. Next we gonna have a campaign against E-snitches. What?

By the way... OP never said Timmy was little.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"