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Screaming Ambition

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Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-07-24 15:14:16 UTC
Rall Mekin wrote:
I am not condemning a man for seeking to do as I would do.

Certain acts of purification resulting in the loss of baseliner--perhaps even capsuleer--existence may be necessary, but it will ultimately be to build a better, more perfect humanity.


You dress your intentions up nicely, but they remain the bare monstrosity underneath your fancy clothing. Your intention is to remake the cluster as you see fit, his intention is to write history as he sees fit. The intention, at the core, is the same. The methods and end goal may vary, but the intention is still very much the same.

Rall Mekin wrote:
I myself sojourned among the Khanid and also visited the Amarrian worlds many times to study your faith under the tutelage of Silas Vitalia, before she also awakened to a higher truth than what she then knew (there are, admittedly, differences in what we both currently believe, to some extent). To be honest, I sensed the entire Amarrian religion and society touched by that same glory I pursue, but being mired in tradition and "religion," you will never attain that which you seek.


Ah, now this is intriguing. To your first point, I would pray that most would offer strong opposition to what you are espousing, not just an Amarrian.

Miss Vitalia betrayed her faith and adopted a new one, this is not indicative of a higher truth but a change of heart.

What you "sensed" about the Amarr religion and society is not at all similar to the same glory you pursue, because the glory you pursue, in your own words, is the exalting of a chosen few toward self glory. The Amarr pursue the glory of God and the prostration of Man before God, they are nothing alike.

You seek personal glory and the glory of Man and you are willing to kill remorselessly to achieve it, you do not seek the will of the Divine or even the reality of the Divine. The Amarr seek to share the truth of God to all and bring them each before the ultimate truth of God's existence and will, knowing that it is not Man that will be glorified, but God. The final exaltation of Man according to the Amarr is to exist in harmony with God's purpose and plan, finding favor in his sight and this is a truth that all of humanity can attain. Those that choose to reject God and his will choose the path of judgment and destruction of their own will, these are often the ones seeking self-glorification, much like yourself.

You apparently learned nothing during your time of tutelage or you were instructed improperly. If you truly wish to understand the truth behind the Amarr faith, speak with me in a medium other than these forums and perhaps we can settle some discrepancies.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#22 - 2012-07-24 15:59:04 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
I begin to wonder how so many of you have survived this long. We kill capsuleers. We conquer solar systems. We make, sell and trade weapons of war and you all speak of grace? Let the one here who has not taken a life speak. Even those who seek only to labor mining minerals has had to take the life of a rat here or there.

So who are you to judge me? I know what I am as well as I know what I am not.

Feel free to join me should you choose to have greatness attached to your name.


I am going to go against my previous declaration to write here again.

Your question is stupid. We have cloning contracts and tremendous wealth. You kill clones, not Capsuleers. What you kill are crews, often pointlessly. I'll make no comment on your 'conquests', your corporate history does an ample job supporting your claims.

You are new to immortality. I urge you to calm yourself, do less talking and more listening. It makes all the difference.

Or if not that, at the very least, have the decency to change your biography to something more appropriate. You wouldn't need many changes. Perhaps consider the following.

Teach me and I learn well (or will murder you). Watch me grow and I will impress (no one). Give me time and I will dominate (A band of petty thugs). Cross me and I will obliterate (my own reputation).

This is the reputation you have built for yourself at this point. I hope you consider changing it for the better.

Many profits to you.

- S
Tagera
Dog Nation
#23 - 2012-07-24 20:28:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tagera
This has to be among the most foulest of betrayals and murders. By all the tribal gods of Matar and all the ones the Gallente worship or revere why not just go and join the Aenebra cultists while your at it. You would fit in perfectly.
Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute
#24 - 2012-07-24 23:07:04 UTC
I don't know what's worse, the youthful ignorance of the OP, or the sillyness of the religous talking heads going on about how their sky god is gonna' getcha'. Oooooohh spooky!
Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-07-25 00:16:52 UTC
Henry Kaine wrote:
I don't know what's worse, the youthful ignorance of the OP, or the sillyness of the religous talking heads going on about how their sky god is gonna' getcha'. Oooooohh spooky!


Interesting assessment, given that no such example of the latter has taken place.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute
#26 - 2012-07-25 01:18:43 UTC
Azdan Amith wrote:
Henry Kaine wrote:
I don't know what's worse, the youthful ignorance of the OP, or the sillyness of the religous talking heads going on about how their sky god is gonna' getcha'. Oooooohh spooky!


Interesting assessment, given that no such example of the latter has taken place.


You've been spewing religous garbage all over this forum, and this thread. There are plenty of religous windbags in the Amarr empire, why don't you take up a more interesting profession, like space-ship-spotting or collecting commerative plates with slave hound puppies on them.
Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-07-25 03:42:00 UTC
Henry Kaine wrote:

You've been spewing religous garbage all over this forum, and this thread. There are plenty of religous windbags in the Amarr empire, why don't you take up a more interesting profession, like space-ship-spotting or collecting commerative plates with slave hound puppies on them.


A minor correction, I've been speaking from a standpoint of faith in God. You also stated that I was declaring that the "skygod" would smite the infidels or something along that line, which I never stated. Ultimately your entire assessment has been false and your latest attempt at provocation is equally lacking. I'm afraid we have nothing further to discuss.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-07-25 13:13:46 UTC
Id much rather have my experience and skill forged in flame as opposed to listening to those who sermonize. Talk is well and good when you are at the table of your enemy negotiating his surrender, but that is only a byproduct of the machine of war.

With all the endless vitrol in this communication, I can only believe the choice I have made was the right one. Some will veil their true intentions behind prattle. Id much rather shout my glory with the press of a button.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#29 - 2012-07-25 15:10:33 UTC
Despite our diffrences, I rather enjoyed my conversation with Azdan in this forum. Since that ended, however, I find Lord Arakkis and Henry Kaine doing nothing but each trying to inflate their ego greater than the other.
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-07-25 15:23:52 UTC
My ego is irrelevant. My ambition and determination should be of concern.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#31 - 2012-07-25 15:47:28 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
My ego is irrelevant. My ambition and determination should be of concern.


As a deep space wormhole dweller, director and FC-in-training of a combat-oriented wormhole corporation, and a master of a large variety of combat ships, I should be concerned about the determination and ambition of an inexperienced, arrogant, and impatient child who is so unstable and undisciplined that he murdered his master for simply having a wise and steady hand?

I think not.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-07-25 17:22:17 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
My ego is irrelevant. My ambition and determination should be of concern.


You know nothing of determination, whelp.

The strongest ambition is not the one which is the quickest to anger, but the patient one.

Do not let your greatest strength become your undoing. A man which is quick to temper acts foolishly. A man who can hone that inner-anger is a powerful man.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-07-25 22:06:18 UTC
In due time many here will see the result of my focus, or my determination. I never assumed or expected to come out the other side of this without wounds. But I will come out. My anger and frustration is my focus. Swallowing anger is the action of the weak and extremely foolish. When the fires of a thousand warships are at your door, will you fold your arms in contemplation awaiting your patience to reveal a solution?

If any would answer yes, I will see you on the other side hoping that you have learned a lesson.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#34 - 2012-07-25 22:25:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Scherezad
Lord Arakkis wrote:
In due time many here will see the result of my focus, or my determination. I never assumed or expected to come out the other side of this without wounds. But I will come out. My anger and frustration is my focus. Swallowing anger is the action of the weak and extremely foolish. When the fires of a thousand warships are at your door, will you fold your arms in contemplation awaiting your patience to reveal a solution?

If any would answer yes, I will see you on the other side hoping that you have learned a lesson.


I was unclear in my previous post to you. I apologize. Let me try again.

This is stupid. We are immortal. You can't kill us as you so thoughtlessly and pointlessly murdered your loyal tutor. Your bluster about fleets of warships at our door is meaningless. You are threatening demigods with bottle rockets. Add onto this the fact that most of the people in these forums are of sufficient skill and tenacity to tear your pretty warships from stem to stern without breaking a sweat, and that they see your bragging as the sounds of a mewling slaver hound pup in a Gallente carrying basket. This is the reputation you have made for yourself.

I won't bother to advise you as I did last time - it was foolish of me to try, as you had made clear your thoughts on well-intentioned assistance.

Enjoy your brief moment in the limelight that this murder has brought you. May your following obscurity be long and bitter.
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-07-25 22:32:45 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Lord Arakkis wrote:
In due time many here will see the result of my focus, or my determination. I never assumed or expected to come out the other side of this without wounds. But I will come out. My anger and frustration is my focus. Swallowing anger is the action of the weak and extremely foolish. When the fires of a thousand warships are at your door, will you fold your arms in contemplation awaiting your patience to reveal a solution?

If any would answer yes, I will see you on the other side hoping that you have learned a lesson.


I was unclear in my previous post to you. I apologize. Let me try again.

This is stupid. We are immortal. You can't kill us as you so thoughtlessly and pointlessly murdered your loyal tutor. Your bluster about fleets of warships at our door is meaningless. You are threatening demigods with bottle rockets. Add onto this the fact that most of the people in these forums are of sufficient skill and tenacity to tear your pretty warships from stem to stern without breaking a sweat, and that they see your bragging as the sounds of a mewling slaver hound pup in a Gallente carrying basket. This is the reputation you have made for yourself.

I won't bother to advise you as I did last time - it was foolish of me to try, as you had made clear your thoughts on well-intentioned assistance.

Enjoy your brief moment in the limelight that this murder has brought you. May your following obscurity be long and bitter.


Death, rebirth, death rebirth...and what of it? Maybe your argument was so insignificant in my eyes that I felt no need to address it. But if I must. While you can be revived in a clone of yourself over and over again, at what point does that become both frustrating and expensive? Does the fact that you are immortal make you more likely to stand in thought while someone destroys your home, your ship and or your station?

You see, just because I can be pushed off a mountain and be revived in a new body does not mean I will allow it to happen. And yes, while there are those out there significantly more experienced than I, all things come to an end eventually.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe

Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute
#36 - 2012-07-25 22:50:21 UTC
Azdan Amith wrote:
Henry Kaine wrote:

You've been spewing religous garbage all over this forum, and this thread. There are plenty of religous windbags in the Amarr empire, why don't you take up a more interesting profession, like space-ship-spotting or collecting commerative plates with slave hound puppies on them.


A minor correction, I've been speaking from a standpoint of faith in God. You also stated that I was declaring that the "skygod" would smite the infidels or something along that line, which I never stated. Ultimately your entire assessment has been false and your latest attempt at provocation is equally lacking. I'm afraid we have nothing further to discuss.


That's perfectly fine that you find it easier to kneel to an unseen entity rather than stand for yourself.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#37 - 2012-07-25 23:26:31 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Death, rebirth, death rebirth...and what of it? Maybe your argument was so insignificant in my eyes that I felt no need to address it. But if I must. While you can be revived in a clone of yourself over and over again, at what point does that become both frustrating and expensive? Does the fact that you are immortal make you more likely to stand in thought while someone destroys your home, your ship and or your station?

You see, just because I can be pushed off a mountain and be revived in a new body does not mean I will allow it to happen. And yes, while there are those out there significantly more experienced than I, all things come to an end eventually.


I have no doubt that the statement was insignificant in your eyes. Myopia does that. You are right about one thing, though. All things do, eventually, end.

Peace and long life, Mr Arakkis.
Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-07-25 23:26:36 UTC
Henry Kaine wrote:
That's perfectly fine that you find it easier to kneel to an unseen entity rather than stand for yourself.


Ah, this is where we differ Mister Kaine.

I find that I stand taller and stronger on my knees before God than on my own two feet. Perhaps that is because the hand of God reaches far and covers all while my own two feet touch but a microscopic particle in the midst of his presence.

I pray some day you will understand this.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-07-25 23:29:48 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:

Death, rebirth, death rebirth...and what of it? Maybe your argument was so insignificant in my eyes that I felt no need to address it. But if I must. While you can be revived in a clone of yourself over and over again, at what point does that become both frustrating and expensive? Does the fact that you are immortal make you more likely to stand in thought while someone destroys your home, your ship and or your station?

You see, just because I can be pushed off a mountain and be revived in a new body does not mean I will allow it to happen. And yes, while there are those out there significantly more experienced than I, all things come to an end eventually.


That you cannot see the difference between tempered wisdom and blind passion is what leads you to this conclusion of dynamic opposites being the only reality. One need not leap head first into every situation to take action unless the ultimate desire is to lose one's head.

It is the wise and effective man which thinks before he acts, acts on what he knows and knows his actions and their consequences intimately. It is this man that shakes worlds, writes history and rattles hearts. It is the former that dies forgotten.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-07-26 01:13:15 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Death, rebirth, death rebirth...and what of it? Maybe your argument was so insignificant in my eyes that I felt no need to address it. But if I must. While you can be revived in a clone of yourself over and over again, at what point does that become both frustrating and expensive? Does the fact that you are immortal make you more likely to stand in thought while someone destroys your home, your ship and or your station?

You see, just because I can be pushed off a mountain and be revived in a new body does not mean I will allow it to happen. And yes, while there are those out there significantly more experienced than I, all things come to an end eventually.


I have no doubt that the statement was insignificant in your eyes. Myopia does that. You are right about one thing, though. All things do, eventually, end.

Peace and long life, Mr Arakkis.



As you said, life is indefinite

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe