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Psychophantic
#1 - 2011-09-23 12:52:42 UTC
Why do internal security and research corps give me faction missions?

Why do security agents give me courier storylines and courier agents give me security storylines?

What is the point of having a 4 hour decline timer, when even a 1 hour timer would help prevent bots cherry picking missions?

You do realise that not everyone wants to pick a side and do faction missions? I prefer to play as more of a free agent/merc. Sure this means I don't make as much ISK from tags and have the extra effort of keeping my faction standings balanced.

Raising Lai Dai standings for my industry alt at the moment.

No storyline agents, ok fair enough. 1 level four sec agent in low sec, ok I'll blitz 3's, don't want to stuff around in my mission mach in low sec. Two missions, faction, faction, 8 jumps to next agent. Faction, mission, faction, 11 jumps. Same again with next agent, two hour wait for first agents decline timer, great, logoff. I'll keep doing hi-sec lvl 4 couriers for them on alt. Low sec mission, low sec mission, next agent....

A few corpmates have the same thing. Happily missioning away, making the ISK, when you hear "#%#@ two faction mish in a row. See you tomorrow".

Why the 4 hour timer?

Wouldn't it make more sense for navy corps and such to give the faction missions and internal and other corps give normal missions?

Why is a research corporation with stations in every factions space asking me to fight inter-faction wars?

Are there so few missions that this is the only way to provide variety? Are all missions so unbalanced that you need a 4 hour timer to prevent people farming say Worlds Collide for overseers?
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#2 - 2011-09-23 13:50:48 UTC
Taking faction missions has rewards, not only those cool tags and stuff, but not waiting around on timers. I consider them integral to limiting the amount of isk/standing a person can generate. If you want to mission nonstop you either have to bounce between two factions and do storylines for both or give up travel in highsec in an area or both.

This is a totally reasonable price to pay IMO. I have to do both even, because I mission for Amarr and Sansha two opposing factions, who also both give minmatar/galente missions. not being able to live in gallente/minmatar space and having to bounce between amarr and sanshas missions is just the price that needs to be paid to do what I want.

Since you never mentioned pirate missions, it should be very easy when you have lots of faction missions, just jump clone or fly a shuttle over to an opposing factions space and run those missions for a while. if you get another timer, get in a shuttle and fly to the faction that supports that one and continue, if you get another faction mission then surely 4 hours have passed at this point and you can start over again.

As far as courier mission in low sec go, you really shouldn't have a problem if the cargo capacity can fit in a transport ship, and you make sure that you have instawarps at your drop off station so you don't get camped.

4 hour timer or not, I still farm WC4, all you have to do is wait till DT and it respawns. I think the 4 hour timers are more to prevent easily keeping all your factions up, I mean they are in a proxy war atm, so it makes sense, if you want to be good with all factions (pirates excluded) you can, just be prepared to work for it.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-09-23 14:15:18 UTC
Yes - the previous mission system was indeed better.

Previously just about all agents would have a chance of giving you combat missions which made it in fact much simpler to get combat missions for a specific corp, even one which didn't have "combat" strong agents.

Nowadays there are corps where you have very few if any combat agents worthwhile - getting standings up with those particular corporations is very painful - I didn't know Lai Dai was one of them but not overly surprised.

As for there being a differentiation in which agents give faction missions and which ones give pirate missions - actually there is, problem is you don't see it obviously because the mission pool mechanics is weird. I am not sure if all agents of the same corp draw from the same pool or if it can actually be different by agents from the same corp. (It might be - I know for certain that in its previous incarnation internal security, security and command agents from the same corp gave out different sets of combat missions).


Anyhow - best of luck with Lai Dai - your pain will not go away, but sharing it may make it a little easier to bear. Bear