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tech 3 frigates

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skimore1
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-07-21 23:20:59 UTC
Because there has been tech 3 cruisers i would love to see tech 3 frigates. How would everyone feel about it?
Saile Litestrider
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-07-21 23:25:50 UTC
I think it's pretty widely agreed that T3s are in a pretty poor state right now. Obsoleting too many ships, not being able to use enough subsystems, not doing enough unique stuff that isn't just "ship x, but better". I'd much prefer they finish their plan to iteratively rebalance every ship out there, then go through and take a look at the balance of all the modules, and then probably take a pass at all the various professions, before they even think about T3 frigates. There's just too much that doesn't work nearly as well as it should.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#3 - 2012-07-21 23:26:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Taoist Dragon
Meh!

Sort out the current lines ups (teiricide etc) first before adding extras IMO



edit: ^^ as above

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Tankn00blicus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-07-22 06:36:05 UTC
A CCP dev posted in another thread a while back (too tired to go find the link) that T3 frigates are not likely to happen as they would be too fragile for the price tag.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#5 - 2012-07-22 07:03:10 UTC
There was some talk about Tech 3 Battleships, but as above, I hope they don't do it. One of two scenarios will occur:

1. They are as powerful as the T3 Cruisers and suddenly no one uses any of the other battleships anymore. Crying on the forums about TEH OP T3 BATTULSHEEPS!
2. They are balanced properly, they can do many roles but not as well as their specialized counterparts and no one uses them at all. Crying on the forums about the GIMP T3 BATTULSHEEPS!

There is no way to win.
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-07-22 07:23:48 UTC
As said before i cant see it happening, seeing as the tier3 cruisers are still cruisers (albeit very good ones) meaining that the tier3 frigate would just be a very very good frigate but still frigates wich would make it very hard to fly such a ship considered the pricetag it would most certanily have!

(i.e it would have frigate weaknesses, could get alphaed and killed otherwise way to easily)
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-07-22 08:32:07 UTC
There are many frigates in the game already.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-07-22 09:56:11 UTC
Yeah, the last thing that Eve needs is a whole new range of frigates thrown in to the already overcrowded line-up.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#9 - 2012-07-22 13:40:35 UTC
skimore1 wrote:
Because there has been tech 3 cruisers i would love to see tech 3 frigates. How would everyone feel about it?


Just what we need... More poorly balanced game breaking content with silly sp loss mechanics that make no sense at all...
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#10 - 2012-07-22 16:17:13 UTC
Whenever I read that idea, the first thought coming to my mind is 0/10.

The very idea is so blatantly stupid anyone suggesting it must be trolling.

They'd be impossible to balance.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-07-22 18:53:08 UTC
The Strategic Cruisers are game-breaking as it is. Strategic Frigates would just mess everything up even more, regardless of how cool and interesting they would be.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-22 22:37:11 UTC
Skipp T3 frigs............... just make em T4 instead.
Canabi
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
#13 - 2012-07-22 22:53:23 UTC
I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup? Something that would be game breaking would be to release a Jove ship. That would be game breaking. T3 ships don't break the game. If you think it's broken, why would you keep playing? Or, better yet, why don't you exclusively fly a T3 ship, seeing as how you believe them to be overpowered or some damn thing. Bad players see things that they don't fully understand or know how to use/counter/kill as game breaking. Stop throwing that term around.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-07-22 23:03:12 UTC
Canabi wrote:
I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup?



The Tengu and PvE, generally.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Canabi
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
#15 - 2012-07-22 23:06:27 UTC
Not concerned with PvE and being "game breaking." It doesn't really affect any other player as PvE can be done solo. As far as the Tengu is concerened. What exactly breaks the game?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-07-22 23:09:05 UTC
oh look. it's this topic again.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-07-22 23:18:27 UTC
Canabi wrote:
I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup? Something that would be game breaking would be to release a Jove ship. That would be game breaking. T3 ships don't break the game. If you think it's broken, why would you keep playing? Or, better yet, why don't you exclusively fly a T3 ship, seeing as how you believe them to be overpowered or some damn thing. Bad players see things that they don't fully understand or know how to use/counter/kill as game breaking. Stop throwing that term around.


T3s were meant as jack-of-all-trades ships, ships that could potentially fulfill the roles of HACs, Recons and Command Ships, sometimes at the same time, but without obsoleting anything on the way. Turns out they kinda did, don't you think? The only T3 that actually meets this goal is the Legion and people usually deem it too terrible to fly compared to the other three.

No sig.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#18 - 2012-07-22 23:33:38 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Canabi wrote:
I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup?



The Tengu and PvE, generally.


Would you care to actually elaborate on just how the Tengu has broken PvE? Or vice versa if that's the case?
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-07-22 23:57:21 UTC
Devs have already stated that t3 frigs are not on the list of things to do.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-07-23 00:47:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Tor Gungnir
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Canabi wrote:
I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup?



The Tengu and PvE, generally.


Would you care to actually elaborate on just how the Tengu has broken PvE? Or vice versa if that's the case?


It is not so much the Tengu as it is the damage projection of Heavy Missiles. The Drake shows this too, to a lesser extent. The Tengu is just able to exploit the heck out of it and for PvE purposes there are very few situations these days where a Tengu isn't the optimal solution.

Then you have the less obvious issues that are general across all Strategic Cruisers, such as making Command Ships (no I am not talking about a DPS Sleipnir) obsolete.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
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