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I just ate at Chic-Fil-A

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Malception
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2012-08-10 15:36:21 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I got yelled at by protesters when I went to Chick Fil A yesterday. Personally I think this whole thing is silly, and protesting over the personal opinion of the CEO of the company is an outrageous display of ignorance. I could care less that they're protesting...until they call me a "shill for the corporate hatemongers" (how cliche can they possibly be?) for simply buying a product I happen to like.

Today, a dozen friends and I went back to that same store to see if they were still there. They were, waving signs and yelling at anyone who approached the restaurant. So we parked right next to them, bought our food, and had a tailgate party about ten feet from them. They finally got mad enough to put down the signs and come yell at us and we had a great time trolling them.

Alas, no one took video. Best moment from lunch:

Hippie girl: "How does that HATE taste?"

Me, with a mouthful of sandwich: "Like chicken."

God, she couldn't have set it up better.

edit: those were some very angry kids. I don't know how people make it through life with that much rage.


LMAO. Troll like a sir.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#82 - 2012-08-13 19:25:27 UTC
Malception wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I got yelled at by protesters when I went to Chick Fil A yesterday. Personally I think this whole thing is silly, and protesting over the personal opinion of the CEO of the company is an outrageous display of ignorance. I could care less that they're protesting...until they call me a "shill for the corporate hatemongers" (how cliche can they possibly be?) for simply buying a product I happen to like.

Today, a dozen friends and I went back to that same store to see if they were still there. They were, waving signs and yelling at anyone who approached the restaurant. So we parked right next to them, bought our food, and had a tailgate party about ten feet from them. They finally got mad enough to put down the signs and come yell at us and we had a great time trolling them.

Alas, no one took video. Best moment from lunch:

Hippie girl: "How does that HATE taste?"

Me, with a mouthful of sandwich: "Like chicken."

God, she couldn't have set it up better.

edit: those were some very angry kids. I don't know how people make it through life with that much rage.


LMAO. Troll like a sir.

You may never know just how hard it was to keep a straight face delivering those two words. Such moments of perfection are quite rare.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2012-08-13 19:34:15 UTC
We have a Chick-Fil-A on campus, right in the food court Cool

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#84 - 2012-08-14 18:55:33 UTC
Call me naive but I quite never understood the rage over who puts what in what hole.

When you see it from that angle, all people are getting angry at is who puts what into a meaty orifice.

So, one orifice is wrong but the other is ok? Reminds me so much of the Egg Cutting Technique in Swift´s Travels of Gulliver

People getting worked out from orifices and orifice insertions and invisible voices in the sky is what drove me to work in a Subway. You people up there in the North have nothing better to argue about? Lol

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#85 - 2012-08-14 19:42:13 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
Call me naive but I quite never understood the rage over who puts what in what hole.

As a person with a religious background, let me shed some light on how it's supposed to be: It's not a matter of what hole you stick it in, it's that there's a very specific rule for who you're supposed to stick it in: that person being your wife. Not married? Keep it in your pants. Married? Keep it in your wife. Gay? That would fall under "not married". Anything else is contrary to the rules given directly from God.

So why oppose gay marriage? In the eyes of most of these people, marriage is an institution set forth by God. To call two men "married" violates that institution and insults their religion. To them, supporters of gay marriage are trying to take a concept that was divinely given to humanity, and redefine it in a way contrary to the wishes of God. Of *course* they're going to be offended by it.

Does that mean they hate gays? No. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't any religious people who hate gays, I'm saying that it's not actually mandated in the religion. Like prohibition, this "gays are evil" mentality has been added by fearful, self-serving individuals. In fact they're instructed to show such people the MOST love and kindness.

Jesus only ever insulted one group of people: the corrupt religious leadership. He only ever demonstrated anger in one place: a temple in which the priesthood had tainted the holiness of the place by allowing and even encouraging marketers to sell goods. In the presence of cheaters, con men, prostitutes, lepers, adulterers, angry mobs, and oppressive rulers...he was forgiving.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#86 - 2012-08-14 20:32:00 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
explanation etc,etc



I still fail to understand it. But I appreciate (truly) the effort. In my head, the base argument is moot. Arbitrarily deciding what you can put in any orifice is as logical as any arbitrary reason. Enforcing it on others is even more ... arbitrary.

I lived in a country where not being part of the red political party meant you would not be able to get jobs or get ahead in life and would be cut from several government sponsored benefits. I simply decided to leave, Arbitrary reasons for any act are simply wrong in my book. Will never ever try to understand or even bother for that matter to let myself be guided by PEOPLE voicing their opinions and putting them as LAWS and/or Enforcing them upon others.

My whole point being that no amount of explanation will ever be right for arbitrary reasons of any magnitude. This is beyond hate, activism or even plain sharing of different opinions, its a simple matter of CHOICE.

If a group of people decides and believe their choice lies in someone saying they have to abide by a set of arbitrary rules good for them, may they find happiness everlasting, but honestly, caring for orifice insertion as dictated by X, x being anything you want to name as the sum of all your fears, societal pressure and background plus experience only demonstrates your lack of choice or apathy regarding choice.

I can further illustrate my point here .

Nothing you said, which I respect to the bottom of my heart, has any meaning regarding my naivete on orifice insertion being correct or incorrect question. You just demonstrated you made a choice, yet fail to satisfy the primary need regarding the pivotal issue at hand. How can logically, such a thing be even a point of discussion that inflames the passions of others, much like Jonathan Swift himself, despising the current Political trends of his era , decided to create the Issue of the Cutting of the Eggs to satirize the Illogical acts of many of their brethren regarding acts that even today, 200+ years in the future , seem to be the norm.

In short, you just told me how to cut an Egg from the short end as seen by one of the Liliputians and perpetuated ad nauseam.

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Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2012-08-14 20:42:51 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
Call me naive but I quite never understood the rage over who puts what in what hole.



I don't care what people do in their bedrooms. I do care when leftist mayors proudly announce they'll penalize speech and thought by denying business permits to a company that doesn't believe as they do.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#88 - 2012-08-14 21:32:20 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
I still fail to understand it. But I appreciate (truly) the effort. In my head, the base argument is moot. Arbitrarily deciding what you can put in any orifice is as logical as any arbitrary reason. Enforcing it on others is even more ... arbitrary.

I suppose I should have made that more clear: nowhere in what I wrote do I mention forcing that upon anyone else.

Christianity was originally far more libertarian than the Christians like to admit: you're given a set of rules, the consequences, and allowed to choose for yourself whether you follow those rules. It was never for men to decide right from wrong; the Bible is full of people being corrected when they tried to pass judgment on others.

Keep in mind that marriage is a completely different issue. In this case the rational conservatives are the ones presenting the most honest rhetoric: this is a fight over the definition of marriage, NOT over the right to it. They maintain that the definition of marriage is static, basing their belief on thousands of years of tradition and their belief in its divine origin. *IF* marriage is contained to that strict definition, then homosexual marriage is impossible. As one person said, it's like asking for dry water. This is a fight over culture and religion. I wish both sides would leave the government out of it.

There are plenty who, given the power, would certainly like to dictate the choice of orifice. I choose not to give those hypocrites and bigots the honor of being discussed in any rational manner.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Jago Kain
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-08-14 22:16:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jago Kain
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
....it's like asking for dry water....


Ermmmm..... bad analogy or subtle troll, not sure which and really, it doesn't matter.

I'd say it was up to believers in vengeful bearded sky fairies to decide amongst themselves if their invisible BFF wants to bless the union of folk of the same genital group. I've had a look at their Bumper Fun Big Grim Book of Threatening Fairy Tales of Deity Sanctioned Mass Murder, and it can possibly be interpreted as saying Rule #1; nahhhhhh poofters (Rule #2; Rule #1 applies at all times etc. etc.). Whatever... if they want to believe it let 'em get on with it.

What isn't up for them to decide is weather gay couples get the same rights as in a secular society as straight couples. Either marriage is a universal right or it isn't, and if it isn't then it's not a right then it's a privilege, and there is no room for privilege in any truly civilised society.

Weather you choose to eat at a place owned by someone who espouses a particular point of view is a matter for your own conscience I'd say.

One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings - Diogenes.

Selinate
#90 - 2012-08-15 00:32:27 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Jada Maroo wrote:

You eat it with the pickle?

EeeeeWWWWWWwwwww.

Hey, don't knock it. The Mormons have their magic underwear, the Catholics have transubstantiation, the Jews have their magic lamp oil, and the Chick-Fil-A has the Tasty Pickle.



Maybe it's just the fact that I've always hated every single piece of Chicken that has come out of that place, but the chicken + pickle has a special place in my heart. For hatred that is.

Every single freaking time, the pickle juice seeps into the breading of the chicken and it just sits there in some disgusting salty cacophony of pickle and nasty breading. Yuck.

Ergo, I knock it SO hard. It is just my opinion, though.
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#91 - 2012-08-15 11:09:12 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
Call me naive but I quite never understood the rage over who puts what in what hole.

As a person with a religious background, let me shed some light on how it's supposed to be: It's not a matter of what hole you stick it in, it's that there's a very specific rule for who you're supposed to stick it in: that person being your wife. Not married? Keep it in your pants. Married? Keep it in your wife. Gay? That would fall under "not married". Anything else is contrary to the rules given directly from God.

So why oppose gay marriage? In the eyes of most of these people, marriage is an institution set forth by God. To call two men "married" violates that institution and insults their religion. To them, supporters of gay marriage are trying to take a concept that was divinely given to humanity, and redefine it in a way contrary to the wishes of God. Of *course* they're going to be offended by it.

Does that mean they hate gays? No. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't any religious people who hate gays, I'm saying that it's not actually mandated in the religion. Like prohibition, this "gays are evil" mentality has been added by fearful, self-serving individuals. In fact they're instructed to show such people the MOST love and kindness.

Jesus only ever insulted one group of people: the corrupt religious leadership. He only ever demonstrated anger in one place: a temple in which the priesthood had tainted the holiness of the place by allowing and even encouraging marketers to sell goods. In the presence of cheaters, con men, prostitutes, lepers, adulterers, angry mobs, and oppressive rulers...he was forgiving.

While I understand that you're a troll, the fact that idiotic Christians think they have a monopoly on what is considered marriage and what isn't, even though it predates their little religion, is completely moronic. Even gay marriage predates Christianity so I don't see why Christians think they should have a say on other peoples' rights. Then again, there is the whole "Christmas" thing as well but that's another issue.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#92 - 2012-08-15 15:21:50 UTC
Jago Kain wrote:
What isn't up for them to decide is weather gay couples get the same rights as in a secular society as straight couples. Either marriage is a universal right or it isn't, and if it isn't then it's not a right then it's a privilege, and there is no room for privilege in any truly civilised society.

Had this conversation with a friend a while back. I'm of the mind that marriage isn't a right, at least not the legal part of it. You have the RIGHT to freely engage in whatever religious ritual you choose, so if you want to have a wedding and call yourself married I don't think anyone is entitled to stop you. However, the legal contract that we call marriage goes above and beyond that and certainly falls into the realm of "privilege".

One thing our society is lacking is a way to confer the privileges of a marital contract without actually calling yourself married. We have separate processes for joint ownership of possessions, medical authority, and other things that are automatically a part of marriage, but it's a lot more steps and doesn't perfectly emulate the marriage contract. The obvious solution is to simple remove "marriage" from the legal discourse entirely and move to civil unions, but something that rational would never survive the idiocy of the fringe groups.

Jago Kain wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
....it's like asking for dry water....

Ermmmm..... bad analogy or subtle troll, not sure which and really, it doesn't matter...

What isn't up for them to decide is weather gay couples get the same rights as in a secular society as straight couples. Either marriage is a universal right or it isn't, and if it isn't then it's not a right then it's a privilege, and there is no room for privilege in any truly civilised society.


What they call "dry water" is a "water-silica compound"...which is like calling rust "solid iron". Roll The analogy was good enough to make the point: from the perspective of the Christian, "gay marriage" simply isn't possible because it can't be a marriage without a man and a woman.

Mutant Caldari wrote:
While I understand that you're a troll

Methinks you don't understand what that word means. I troll frequently, but not a bit of what I said here is trolling.

Mutant Caldari wrote:
the fact that idiotic Christians think they have a monopoly on what is considered marriage and what isn't, even though it predates their little religion, is completely moronic. Even gay marriage predates Christianity so I don't see why Christians think they should have a say on other peoples' rights.

See, this is EXACTLY the problem with this topic. Here I am, trying to offer some insight into why Christians think the way they do without addressing whether it's right or wrong, and people like you just want to ignore the conversation and go right back to talking about how wrong they are. If you want people to be tolerant and understanding of others, you should try it yourself. It's quite enlightening.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#93 - 2012-08-15 15:40:29 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:


Mutant Caldari wrote:
While I understand that you're a troll

Methinks you don't understand what that word means. I troll frequently, but not a bit of what I said here is trolling.

Mutant Caldari wrote:
the fact that idiotic Christians think they have a monopoly on what is considered marriage and what isn't, even though it predates their little religion, is completely moronic. Even gay marriage predates Christianity so I don't see why Christians think they should have a say on other peoples' rights.

See, this is EXACTLY the problem with this topic. Here I am, trying to offer some insight into why Christians think the way they do without addressing whether it's right or wrong, and people like you just want to ignore the conversation and go right back to talking about how wrong they are. If you want people to be tolerant and understanding of others, you should try it yourself. It's quite enlightening.

I should be tolerant and understanding to people in a relatively new religion who think they can not only pick and choose which parts of the Bible they want to follow but also think they should have the power to decide on other peoples' civil rights? Sorry, Sally, I don't think so. When marriage, and gay marriage, predate your religion, you have absolutely no right to decide what marriage is or isn't. You know what's actually funny? If we actually kept true to the whole "separation of Church and State", this wouldn't be an issue at all. Even though marriage wasn't a religious ceremony when it was first created, it is now and therefore should not have any legal weight whatsoever. Then hate mongering Christians going against their own "Lord's" words would really have nothing to ***** and moan about. If civil unions actually gave the same rights that marriage does and were actually the "norm", this wouldn't be an issue at all. I would call this a case of "Separate but equal" but the two things aren't even equal. Am I saying what they are doing is wrong? Yes, yes I am. Sorry, hypocritical sheeple should not be the ones deciding on the rights of people because of some 2,000 year old fairy tale.

Ooops, fed it again.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#94 - 2012-08-15 15:58:38 UTC
Holy rambling paragraph, batman!

Your disdain for people of faith clearly prevents you from having a rational conversation about their motivations. I made some things very clear in earlier posts that you're either blatantly ignoring or completely failing to comprehend. Either way, I see no purpose in attempting to discuss this further with you.

Mutant Caldari wrote:
sheeple


Anyone using this "word" should be summarily lobotomized.

That might be hyperbole.

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A Soporific
Perkone
Caldari State
#95 - 2012-08-15 16:37:24 UTC
The proper solution is to ensure that all law refers to exclusively to civil union, and leave the term "marriage" for churches. So, when you go to the church you get the legal "civil union" part and the inherently religious "marriage" part. Those who don't care about the optional religious add on can dispense with it entirely as it doesn't have a legal (de jure) difference. It's unlike that this would create a difference in practice (de facto) because in this case a same sex marriage would be identical to a more traditional civil union in any meaningful manner, and existing anti-discrimination laws and rules should handle any attempt to draw a distinction.

But, such a compromise is apparently unacceptable. I haven't the slightest idea why, if it's about rights then this is a clear way to have the rights issue resolved and remove the most common justification for opposition.

If all Christians were really out the "get" you, then you'd be gotten. A supermajority of Americans are Christian. If they really wanted to make homosexuality illegal then it would be illegal. It's bad practice (and actually plays into the hand of the people you are actually mad at) to attack all of them for a trait exhibited by a surprisingly small minority.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#96 - 2012-08-15 19:47:57 UTC
Just to spike things up in this hot thread, I present you RICH KIDS OF INSTAGRAM ... weee! The 100.000Euros bill was just too much Lol

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#97 - 2012-08-15 20:03:14 UTC
A Soporific wrote:
If they really wanted to make homosexuality illegal then it would be illegal.


It was, once upon a time. The courts have dismissed such laws as unconstitutional, and those that remain on the books are not enforced.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#98 - 2012-08-15 20:06:00 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
Just to spike things up in this hot thread, I present you RICH KIDS OF INSTAGRAM ... weee! The 100.000Euros bill was just too much Lol

A page full of proof that even rich people can completely lack taste and style Cool

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