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I just ate at Chic-Fil-A

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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
#41 - 2012-08-01 21:46:11 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
The thing is, we're talking about somebody's sexual preferences here. Not their race, gender, religion, or political beliefs. Where's my Toe Licker's Pride Parade? Huh? How about my Lovers of Women of Walmart Pride Parade?


First: lol

B: LBGTs are in many respects considered a minority, and protected from hate-crimes, in many states.

However, let's not forget that what Chick-Fil-A has said doesn't rise to the level of hate-crime... all they've said is that they believe in christian values and that they don't support gay marriage.
They have not said that LBGTs aren't welcome in their restaurants.

3: One might argue that even if they HAD said they don't want LBGTs in their restaurants, that couldn't be considered a hate-crime either.
to deconstruct that argument, let's imagine the following example:

one food-chain says it doesn't want gay couples in their restaurants.
another food-chain says it doesn't want black couples in their restaurants.
which is more likely to be sued by an individual?
which is more likely to getting involved in a class-action suit?
and which is more likely to lose in court?


feel free to pay me no mind,
I am but a fool on a hill.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-08-01 21:47:21 UTC
I wanted Chic-fil-a today but so did everyone else in the state... the traffic to get there was backed up for 30 miles P

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Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-08-02 01:00:08 UTC
I think we've figured out how to fix the economy. The mayor of Boston, Rahm Emmanuel, and gay rights extremists who can't handle opposing points of view need to boycott all American business. Bam, double dip recession over!
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#44 - 2012-08-03 17:38:02 UTC
Karma wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
The thing is, we're talking about somebody's sexual preferences here. Not their race, gender, religion, or political beliefs. Where's my Toe Licker's Pride Parade? Huh? How about my Lovers of Women of Walmart Pride Parade?


First: lol

B: LBGTs are in many respects considered a minority, and protected from hate-crimes, in many states.

However, let's not forget that what Chick-Fil-A has said doesn't rise to the level of hate-crime... all they've said is that they believe in christian values and that they don't support gay marriage.
They have not said that LBGTs aren't welcome in their restaurants.

3: One might argue that even if they HAD said they don't want LBGTs in their restaurants, that couldn't be considered a hate-crime either.
to deconstruct that argument, let's imagine the following example:

one food-chain says it doesn't want gay couples in their restaurants.
another food-chain says it doesn't want black couples in their restaurants.
which is more likely to be sued by an individual?
which is more likely to getting involved in a class-action suit?
and which is more likely to lose in court?


feel free to pay me no mind,
I am but a fool on a hill.

IMO, people should be able to do whatever the hell they want-- as long as they don't push it on everybody else. The thing is, in this crazy country (the U.S.A.), if people are in some recognized category, they'll eventually start pushing for that to be a protected class. And there will always be people that abuse that. "You didn't reprimand me because my performance sucks-- you reprimanded me because I'm [a female, a Zoroastrian, an Antarctic-American, whatever]!" "Oh no, male Wiccans are under-represented among senior police officers, we'd better promote some up!"

Kind of seems like LGTG is headed toward becoming a category, i.e. a protected class. Which is fine. I just hope people don't cynically abuse it to get advantages or preferences over other people. Here's hoping... Smile
Jim Era
#45 - 2012-08-03 18:35:08 UTC
I am being persecuted because I am a wealthy white male. I need protected status.

Wat™
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#46 - 2012-08-03 20:58:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Even thought the troll pretty much failed i will breath some life itno Jada's thread.

Everyone in the US has the right to free speech. Everyone also has the right to suffer the repercussions of said speech. Luckily for this business no press is bad press. All I am saying is that this whole issue is just a chance for people to show their already excessively large asses. I just want to know the collective calories swallowed down because of this interview Lol

Get fatter USA! You have to be on of the easiest populations to control Twisted


EDIT:
Khergit Deserters wrote:

Kind of seems like LGTG is headed toward becoming a category, i.e. a protected class. Which is fine. I just hope people don't cynically abuse it to get advantages or preferences over other people. Here's hoping... Smile


Once they get equal civil union rights I am off their band wagon!


Slade
Ethaniel Alexander
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-08-04 07:02:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethaniel Alexander
Well, it has been known for some time that the aforementioned company does provide large sums of money to groups that presume to remove rights from gays, and/or prevent us from acquiring the ones we don't have. This litte media tiff is highlighting that, especially. It's all free speech, but when money starts getting thrown around it becomes political, private enterprise or not.
Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#48 - 2012-08-04 09:10:20 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
I think we've figured out how to fix the economy. The mayor of Boston, Rahm Emmanuel, and gay rights extremists who can't handle opposing points of view need to boycott all American business. Bam, double dip recession over!


How many boycotts have conservative groups conducted over the years and aren't these 'extremists' practising the same rights as others accuse them as trying to squelch? Indeed it does appear some people can't handle others opposing viewpoints.

Yeeee! 
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#49 - 2012-08-04 09:57:48 UTC
Karma wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
The thing is, we're talking about somebody's sexual preferences here. Not their race, gender, religion, or political beliefs. Where's my Toe Licker's Pride Parade? Huh? How about my Lovers of Women of Walmart Pride Parade?


First: lol

B: LBGTs are in many respects considered a minority, and protected from hate-crimes, in many states.

However, let's not forget that what Chick-Fil-A has said doesn't rise to the level of hate-crime... all they've said is that they believe in christian values and that they don't support gay marriage.
They have not said that LBGTs aren't welcome in their restaurants.

3: One might argue that even if they HAD said they don't want LBGTs in their restaurants, that couldn't be considered a hate-crime either.
to deconstruct that argument, let's imagine the following example:

one food-chain says it doesn't want gay couples in their restaurants.
another food-chain says it doesn't want black couples in their restaurants.
which is more likely to be sued by an individual?
which is more likely to getting involved in a class-action suit?
and which is more likely to lose in court?


feel free to pay me no mind,
I am but a fool on a hill.


Chick-Fil-A may not rise to the level of hate crime, but they donate millions of dollars to people who encourage others to, they also actively support groups dedicated to denying LBGT people basic civil rights.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#50 - 2012-08-06 15:38:28 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Karma wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
The thing is, we're talking about somebody's sexual preferences here. Not their race, gender, religion, or political beliefs. Where's my Toe Licker's Pride Parade? Huh? How about my Lovers of Women of Walmart Pride Parade?


First: lol

B: LBGTs are in many respects considered a minority, and protected from hate-crimes, in many states.

However, let's not forget that what Chick-Fil-A has said doesn't rise to the level of hate-crime... all they've said is that they believe in christian values and that they don't support gay marriage.
They have not said that LBGTs aren't welcome in their restaurants.

3: One might argue that even if they HAD said they don't want LBGTs in their restaurants, that couldn't be considered a hate-crime either.
to deconstruct that argument, let's imagine the following example:

one food-chain says it doesn't want gay couples in their restaurants.
another food-chain says it doesn't want black couples in their restaurants.
which is more likely to be sued by an individual?
which is more likely to getting involved in a class-action suit?
and which is more likely to lose in court?


feel free to pay me no mind,
I am but a fool on a hill.


Chick-Fil-A may not rise to the level of hate crime, but they donate millions of dollars to people who encourage others to, they also actively support groups dedicated to denying LBGT people basic civil rights.

Fast food chain operates as a fundamentalist quasi-cult. Fast food chain acts as an inflammatory social/political activist. People eat fast food as a form of social statement. Could this happen anywhere else but America? Big smile
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#51 - 2012-08-06 17:44:12 UTC
In-n-Out, baby! :P
In-N-OUT!
That's what a hamburger's ...alllll about :D

/troll

—Ω—
Jim Era
#52 - 2012-08-06 18:27:20 UTC
In-n-Out sucks,
plus they are also a christian organization, I wonder if they hold the same beliefs as chic

Wat™
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#53 - 2012-08-06 19:09:42 UTC
And here I thought this chain was only responsible for a bad bowl game match-up at the end of the college football season.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#54 - 2012-08-06 19:23:55 UTC
After reading this thread I have come to the conclusion that I do not want to live on this planet anymore.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#55 - 2012-08-06 20:18:46 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-08-06 23:30:36 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
In-n-Out sucks,
plus they are also a christian organization, I wonder if they hold the same beliefs as chic


If you don't put christian on the app they won't hire you

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#57 - 2012-08-07 01:19:40 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
[...]
I mean, can you combine a delicious food with an abstract internet concept?
[...]


Cake.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2012-08-07 01:30:54 UTC
What about chicken rights?!

Do you see how chickens are treated?

Monsters!

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#59 - 2012-08-07 01:42:44 UTC
Vilnius Zar wrote:
Everything you need to know about Chick Fil-A (not for the faint of heart).


The first ca. 30 seconds say it all, really Roll

E:

This thread is bad, and the OP should feel ashamed of itself.

E2:

CAKE!!!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-08-07 06:16:59 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
What about chicken rights?!

Do you see how chickens are treated?

Monsters!


They should let us bring our own chickens in Big smile

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