EVE General Discussion

"buy 2+ accounts to play". While I have 4-5 accounts, I always found this to be borderline of a scam imposed on players.
Never needed to do that in any other MMO.


Anyway another thing that keeps being overlooked is how for many beginning with me, EvE is just a pass time, a stop gap while not doing something else. Thus it gets a very low priority and all those oh-so-important achievements like passing 40 0.0 systems in an unescorted ship become a waste of time. To me, spending 2-3 hours (that's how long it took to go to Stain the last time I went there from south of Amarr in a Hurricane) is not fun.

If I find 30 minutes to play, I WANT them to be meaningful. This is why while I only play PvP games, I don't PvP in EvE (any more).
I want to kill faces not to roam for 1 hour just to get hot dropped nor to waste 3 hours of my life to make some moon goo overlord richer.

EvE is good for manufacturing and playing the markets, both things that don't require going the extra miles and sinking hours and hours just to go from A to B.

What's that, two players fit for close range tackling can lock down a solo hostile ship!? good gods what is this game coming to!


Hint - you don't need any wcs to escape two frigates. I'll give you two ideas to start you off, I'm sure if you engage your brain you will find more.

1) shoot back and kill the buggers, they're only frigs!

2) they are within 10km to scramble you, fit a neut and cap them out. (while doing so, you could also see point 1)

These are opinions.

Stopped reading here.

How to Get HighSec types into Low and Null (aka lower sec) ?? What's stops them? How can it be fixed?

Edited out because I honestly just don't care enough anymore.

Wrong – Just plain Wrong

This line is said over and over again and again

And I know it to be completely wrong. It is the comment of people who have no imagination, who live in fear and refuse to take a risk.

My Story – abridged form

2 and ½ years ago I bought 3 moons in low sec that helped build hypersynaptic fibres

We had very limited (read none) PvP protection – so in our Corp description we wrote in English and in Russian that we were a null sec Russian logistics corporation – Enquiries to my CEO – recruitment closed – NBSI

Needless to say we were neither Russian nor had any of our 5 corp members ever lived in null

We went untouched for 6 months.

In those six months I scanned every low sec moon in the region recording what minerals and who controlled them.

This allowed me to discover 2 new tungsten moons which were not recorded on dotlans – it also allowed to identify the political landscape.

We expanded our moon mining to the tungsten moons and paired low grade moons – 7 moons in total.

I had identified two areas in the region which would be off limits to us – one was a pipe which had the biggest quantity of expensive moons – the other was right next door to a null entrance.

Then one of our moons got attacked by a new alliance moving into the area – they had already taken the expensive ‘pipe’ making it their ‘home’ and now were looking around for more moons – Now one skill I have is negotiation – I do not know why this is but I am pretty good at it – and I negotiated a ‘reasonable protection fee’ to be paid to hold onto the moon.

I eventually got access to the alliances INTEL channel as well and built a relationship without ever joining them officially.

They the alliance attacked a neighboring moon of someone else’s but got hot dropped and their capitals destroyed – so they stopped expanding and withdrew to their pocket

I made contact with the neighbor and arranged to supply info from the alliance INTEL channel – over the course of the next 6 months the alliance suffered numerable ship losses and were contained.

During all this time I became a recognized hauler in the area and became friendly with the ‘local’ pirates occasionally helping some of their new members in ratting sites they were finding difficult – this meant the local pirates left me alone.

As players came and went from the system more and more moons came up for sale and I bought them. My neighbor asked if I could manage his 3 moons while he went off PvPing so another 3 + 3 low grades were added.

I eventually negotiated a drop of the ‘protection fee’ as the alliance left their pocket and went to null (where on a side note they were completely humiliated and destroyed – when they came back to the pocket they never asked for that protection money again) – I made a point of not buying any of the pocket moons though.

After 1 and ½ years my corp of 6 indi players (we had recruited one player in that time) was in control of 29 low sec moon mining moons.

In the final 6 months we went completely unchalleneged – we built 25 POCO’s when they became available with the local pirate groups helping us destroy the CO’s that were there so that got blue standings and low tax.

We then got the opportunity to move to null which we took.

Over the course of 4 weeks we took down and sold our assets (29 large POS + mods sold on the market – that was a nice wind fall) + the moons that we could – we kept the POCO’s

We bowed out graciously.

In all that time strategy, diplomacy, and calculated risk taking got us through. In all that time we could have called upon maybe 10 BS pilots.

Low sec provides a different environment.

One key element to understand is that only ‘small’ alliances bully in low sec – because if they are big they go to null sec

If you can make yourself ‘seem’ big the small bullies will not touch you.

When we finally had 29 moons, new reds coming to our back yard just had to look around and see 29 moon mining POSs – The thought in their heads would be we are not big enough to take on anyone with that size infrastructure – and anyone who was big enough – they went directly to null.

Low sec provides a different environment – its not high or null (doh!) discover what it is and adapt to it.

Regards

Caghji