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Our new Radioactive Reality... are we ***ked
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Reicine Ceer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-07-21 10:56:01 UTC
TEPCO orders Fukushima workers to cover dossimeters with LEAD PLATE.

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Fukushima workers were ordered to shield their dosimeter with lead covers to make the integral dose look lower than actual.

Some of the workers admitted they covered the dosimeters with lead cases in the interview with Asahi newspaper.

On 12/1/2011, 10 of the workers were ordered to shield the dosimeters called APD, but 3 of them rejected it. In the evening of 12/2/2011, those workers and 3 managers had a discussion at the hotel, where they used as lodging house. The workers recorded the conversation by mobile phone to publish the fact that they were to shield their dosimeter. The manager (54) who gave them order is denying the contents of recorded conversation. He’s denying that he ordered them to shield or some of the workers actually covered it with lead case.


Even the BBC took notice of it.

Dudes, this thing is going DOWN. They're dumping millions of gallons of highly radioactive water that has been used to cool damaged and highly radioactive reactors as if it's normal, burning radioactive debris and treating people with radiation sickness as either hysterical or paranoid. Fukushima residents' children are looking at a stunning >30% rate of damaged thyroids, with many already showing nodules.

tl;dr -- Japan & TEPCO are covering up the worst nuclear accident in the history of mankind, and are effectively sitting around doing nothing but hiding the facts from the public. On a scale of 1-F**KED we appear to be completely and utterly ***ked.

Discuss?
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#2 - 2012-07-21 12:10:52 UTC
No point or opinion to your thread = no discussion.

I wish I had so much free time to cut n paste articles into forums and put a "discuss" at the end of it.

I bet you own a red car and drive it around, hoping that you can find an excuse to honk the horn, so you can draw even more unnecessary attention to yourself.

OT: there is none.

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Rara Yariza
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-07-21 14:57:42 UTC
So the japs get a fourth eye, it's too far away to mess us up. Big smile
Reicine Ceer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-21 14:59:07 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
No point or opinion to your thread = no discussion.

I wish I had so much free time to cut n paste articles into forums and put a "discuss" at the end of it.

I bet you own a red car and drive it around, hoping that you can find an excuse to honk the horn, so you can draw even more unnecessary attention to yourself.

OT: there is none.


Typical EVE Online forum poster is typical. Have an opinion? ATTACK IT. Have no opinion? ATTACK IT.

Id've thought that my original post was obviously NOT in favour of the current goings-on, and in fact present a wide but shallow overview of stuff that in most cases people haven't even thought about for months, in a way similar to how televised documentaries aren't offering any kind of judgement on their subject matter but rather they present information and leave the decision/reaction to the audience.

I personally have my own strong beliefs and opinions regarding the entire Fukushima debacle but felt that posting a thread full of ranting misgivings about governmental bodies being utterly uninterested in :our: health and safety would be useless and result in a surprisingly similar first response.

So, back to the beginning; am i taking crazy pills or something? The information i've read looks like nothing less than a precursor to a systemic failure of the food production (fish) industry, medical aid and pretty much setting up the scenario for a quietly disintegrating civilization.
Reicine Ceer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-07-21 15:07:26 UTC
Rara Yariza wrote:
...it's too far away to mess us up. Big smile


WROOOOOOOOOOOONG.

The weather, tides, radiological isotope concentration through the foodchain and the fact that our planet is a closed system imply that yes, you *will* be affected by it. Have a look at the surrounding facts, study the strength and spread and projected effects of this. As an example, huge swathes of the Western seaboard of the United States have already started to pick up intense levels of radioactivity; fish (including tuna) are being caught off American shores with higher than background levels of radioactivity too.

There is so much more to this than we as a populace are being told about, and the more you dig up, the worse it looks. Bad times!
stoicfaux
#6 - 2012-07-21 15:35:24 UTC
xkcd radiation dose chart: http://xkcd.com/radiation/


Don't be a drama queen:
Quote:
In December, a Build-Up executive told them to cover their dosimeters with lead casings when working in areas with high radiation.

Otherwise, he warned, they would quickly reach the legal limit of 50 millisieverts' exposure in a year, and they would have to stop working.

Build-Up president Takashi Wada told Japanese media nine of the workers complied.

Dosimeters - used to measure cumulative exposure - can be worn as badges or carried as devices about the size of a smartphone.

The workers had a recording of their meeting, the Asahi Shimbun newspaper said.

"Unless we hide it with lead, exposure will max out and we cannot work," the executive was heard saying in the recording, as quoted by the paper.

The executive apparently said he used one of the lead shields himself.


As for the environmental impact, post links so we can put the facts in perspective. You've already shown that you're prone to hysterics and thus your opinions aren't to be trusted. This is not to say that the information you provided isn't useful.


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Rara Yariza
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-07-21 15:39:09 UTC
Reicine Ceer wrote:
Rara Yariza wrote:
...it's too far away to mess us up. Big smile


WROOOOOOOOOOOONG.

The weather, tides, radiological isotope concentration through the foodchain and the fact that our planet is a closed system imply that yes, you *will* be affected by it. Have a look at the surrounding facts, study the strength and spread and projected effects of this. As an example, huge swathes of the Western seaboard of the United States have already started to pick up intense levels of radioactivity; fish (including tuna) are being caught off American shores with higher than background levels of radioactivity too.

There is so much more to this than we as a populace are being told about, and the more you dig up, the worse it looks. Bad times!



I wrote that for the d1ck joke, nothing more :) calm down...
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
#8 - 2012-07-21 17:21:09 UTC
Reicine Ceer wrote:
There is so much more to this than we as a populace are being told about, and the more you dig up, the worse it looks. Bad times!

Of course it does. Because like anything else in the world, if you do enough digging everything looks worse. The best goddamn case of this is the whole Di-hydrogen-monoxide farce that people who actually know what they're talking about like to use to remind idiots who don't understand what they're digging into or the inner workings behind it, that if you dig up enough **** about something, surprise surprise, you will find **** because you are looking for it. It's like you're camping at the rear end of a horse and expecting gold lumps and rainbows.

By all means, attempt to educate yourself on situations [and others, if you feel you can] but do not take words from other peoples mouths and use it as your own voice. It's stupid and can lead to situations where people perpetuate jargon that, when broken down, people already know/have no understanding of/don't care about.

Cheers.

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Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-07-21 20:45:07 UTC
It'll all work out eventually.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#10 - 2012-07-21 21:04:44 UTC
They will just finally end up with the blonde hair they always wanted anyhow.

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JetCord
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-07-21 22:00:27 UTC
still waiting for Godzilla to emerge
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-07-21 22:04:34 UTC
Oh, no, the earth might get contaminated by the radioactive materials we dug up... from... the earth.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-07-21 22:29:46 UTC
Radiation puts hairs on your chest

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Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-07-22 08:52:15 UTC
Avoiding the world will end part.

Some Boss did order workers to negate their safety protocol, and pretty much work themselves to death.

Now.... this thread needs more tentacle porn jokes.

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Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-07-22 09:17:36 UTC
Reicine Ceer wrote:


There is so much more to this than we as a populace are being told about, and the more you dig up, the worse it looks. Bad times!


I find the opposite to be true, the more you step back and look at the bigger picture, the more ****** up things seem.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#16 - 2012-07-22 09:41:21 UTC
Reicine Ceer wrote:
Rara Yariza wrote:
...it's too far away to mess us up. Big smile


WROOOOOOOOOOOONG.

The weather, tides, radiological isotope concentration through the foodchain and the fact that our planet is a closed system imply that yes, you *will* be affected by it. Have a look at the surrounding facts, study the strength and spread and projected effects of this. As an example, huge swathes of the Western seaboard of the United States have already started to pick up intense levels of radioactivity; fish (including tuna) are being caught off American shores with higher than background levels of radioactivity too.

There is so much more to this than we as a populace are being told about, and the more you dig up, the worse it looks. Bad times!


The seas are already overfished anyway, so for nature this actually might be a fortunate thing.

Same with the oil spill in the Mexican Gulf some time ago, btw.....

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Adam Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-07-23 17:51:25 UTC
Nuclear radiation is hardly as dangerous as everyone makes it out to be - the world needs nuclear power and that's a fact (though we can do better than 60's designs on fault lines).

Living in Cornwall is worse for you in radiological terms than working in a nuclear power station,
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#18 - 2012-07-23 18:27:15 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
xkcd radiation dose chart: http://xkcd.com/radiation/


Interesting chart, but I want to know how many Sieverts of radiation Spock absorbed when fixing the Enterprise in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#19 - 2012-07-23 18:33:52 UTC
They should've built their reactor at Fukuoka.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-07-23 21:25:00 UTC
Reicine Ceer wrote:
Rara Yariza wrote:
...it's too far away to mess us up. Big smile


WROOOOOOOOOOOONG.

The weather, tides, radiological isotope concentration through the foodchain and the fact that our planet is a closed system imply that yes, you *will* be affected by it. Have a look at the surrounding facts, study the strength and spread and projected effects of this. As an example, huge swathes of the Western seaboard of the United States have already started to pick up intense levels of radioactivity; fish (including tuna) are being caught off American shores with higher than background levels of radioactivity too.

There is so much more to this than we as a populace are being told about, and the more you dig up, the worse it looks. Bad times!



see I'm confused, we have detonated over 2000 nukes on us soil already. why would one more fallout from half way across the world matter?

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