EVE General Discussion

You are not seeing the big picture. Each player is given the same tools; so the game is on even ground; it's each individual's right to chose the tools they want to use in game. So perfectly fair for all sides in an engagement.

You are focusing on individual tactics instead of larger picture, if you chose to fight when the advantage isn't yours, out of some sense of e-honor (excluding for fun gudfights), then you are the problem, in the big picture, knowing when to fight and when not to fight is probably one of the best skills to have. And I'm not pretending to have this skill, if you look at my KB, I pick fights with stuff I shouldn't on a regular basis, and lose ships for it. But I'm not interested in the larger picture "win" of eve, I just want to see things burn.

Ganking miners is to pvp as street mugging old ladies is to street gang violence.

Well-spoken. Of course, not a surprising sentiment.






Um, so are they both players or aren't they?

In the strictest definition, ganking would fit because it is one player pitting himself against another player, thus Player versus Player. However, the glory and respect gained is usually minimal because there is no challenge or real risk involved. Yes, one will lose the ship and modules, of course, but the risk I speak of is that of failure. That risk should always be assumed by the attacker, not the defender (the defender has his own risk quotient dependent upon his own activity), and because that risk is minimal in that regard, it is unbalanced PvP to say the least.

That said, it is a tricky balancing act. I support the right to gank, and I support the right to mine. Actually, I support most every activity within the game, so I can see the viewpoint of most everyone involved.

did it go right over your head?

Ganking miners is like poaching deer
Wardeccing miners is like hunting deer with a permit
PvP is like going on a safari in Africa armed only with a knife

Mike Tyson beating up the 3rd grade cripple is what CONCORD does.

my father disowned me after he found out i play eve

Yes, absolutely.

There is this trick miners can pull but its not all that well known. Its called fitting a tank.

Let just say it's Eve pvp, similar to jokers in pvp fits going into a mission and trying to bait a pve fit to fight or the small army vs 1 gate camps. I don't see any sense of triumph from this unless you really have little else in your life. As far as hulks, they did deserve it when not even trying to have some defense, but meh, it's still just shooting ducks in a barrel.

Then stop destroying those poor, innocent asteroids. They can't fit a tank or warp away from a mining ships. You can say we're picking on the weak all you like, but we're acually protecting the weakest species in all of EVE.