EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

The highest quality video I could find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy2PJpmwoYc&NR=1

Do you have video of this match in a higher quality?

The CCP Games channel seems to have nothing pre-AT VII.

If you guys have video of earlier ATs, getting video up on the CCP Games channel would be a good good thing.

I watched the match last year when I'd heard about it. I felt it was time to rewatch it. Shame about the video quality. Just watching that ball of blue death moving towards red ball of BoB, it gives goosebumps.


The excitement of the announcers, the cheering after the match ... it all kind of mirrors the excitement over the RK/PL match last Sunday.

If you're talking about that last day of group from AT5, ohhhhhh that match . Getting denied points to advance out of the group stages by some annoying little nanoteam, still have a sore spot from that match.

But yup, The Charge is still the crown jewel from the existence of SF, and is pretty important to Rote as well. A lot more people than that list deserve credit though, Jonny Damodred for one, Cosmo for his help behind the scenes, etc - true group effort.

I can see some similarities of course (pandemic legion being a vast juggernaut of alliance scale death etc) but one thing that's worth remembering is that Rote Kapelle today is itself a pvp powerhouse of a kind - they have spent many years recruiting for and perfecting the art of small unit pvp in syndicate with a pretty uncompromising culture of criticism and fit compliance that is supremely disciplined. While sure there is something of the smaller alliance against the bigger when they take down Pandemic (especially with the rare tournament ships and such that PL used) its not really a fair comparison with the way SF was back then against Band of Brothers.

We were literally 10 part time pvp'ing trouble-making roleplayers really. The alliance as a whole was run on a shoe-string - tactics were made up as we went along - practice was pretty random and last minute. We had a couple of setups (ishtars and thoraxes and something involving hugins and eos I think - but ships were assembled an hour before the matches mostly. None of us with the exception of Bacc had pirate implants (which were allowed then) and we decided to stake everything on the throw of the thorax rush and ecm drones. This against the most powerful alliance in the game that had never been beaten.

Funny story I have from the match was talking to the player of Revan Neferis on the sunday before hand I told her what we planned to do and she got really upset with me about the fact that we were going to shamed in front of the community by putting up a "weak showing" with tech 1 cruisers. I told her the theory about the ecm drones and the mathematics behind it but she just couldn't get around the fact we were staking 100m isk worth of ships against tens of billions of ships and pirate clones and kept telling me it was better we just suicide destructed our ships rather than be humiliated in this way.

You can bet I had some nice satisfying "I told you so" afterwards.

Funny thing is after the Band of Brothers match we went on to lose against Pandemic legion who were using an early stealth bomber damping + ecm burst scorpion tactic that completely destroyed our Ishtars. Will always wonder what would have happened if we'd just have gone thoraxes again (though in retrospect I bet we'd have gone in against the scorpion and wasted a lot of time getting ecm bursted while stealth bombers blew our ships up.)

Yeah, after the Rax Charge, we actually faced PL. At the time, I was just super-happy we actually won our "impossible" match, to the point where I was like "oh crap, we only have like two hours to figure out something, go go go!", and in my haste I said "screw it, let's try the Ishtars again".

Getting rushed meant we came in at zero kilometers, right into the waiting jaws of PL smartbombs. Whoopsy-daisy. Lesson of that year, be prepared for the unexpected.

Personally, I think the initial entry fee should be lower, and the spots unlimited. If they're going to take the time to do this, lets take the time to do the prequals right and just get rid of anyone who just can't play properly.

Would this stop the most likely teams from making it through? Probably not, unless some poor/cheap team got extremely lucky.. but at least it would be open to ALL.

Take a look at this :

sakura nihil BR + downloadable vids

Glad to bring you back to that memory

But i couln't find any km on evekill or battleclinic :(