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New dev blog: Tech is fine l2p

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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#861 - 2012-07-27 17:06:45 UTC
corestwo wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
One of the goals up until the beginning of phase two is for Tech to continue being the best moon in the game by a large margin.

I suppose that could be accurate, depending on what the definition of "large margin" is.

more like

negative margin

man if this is what you have in store for phase one, I shudder to think what phase two is going to entail
Zhentar
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#862 - 2012-07-27 17:10:15 UTC
Promiscuous Female wrote:

you'd have to be a moron to make anything for the next month or so



So what you're saying is, high-sec production is unlikely to be affected?
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#863 - 2012-07-27 17:11:53 UTC
Zhentar wrote:
Promiscuous Female wrote:

you'd have to be a moron to make anything for the next month or so



So what you're saying is, high-sec production is unlikely to be affected?

Zing!
Werst Dendenahzees
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#864 - 2012-07-27 17:15:27 UTC
Boosh
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#865 - 2012-07-27 17:22:06 UTC
Hammer Legion Member wrote:


@ Grath
I agree that there have been fights in the past over tech moons (mostly between current OTEC parties btw.) and you kinda deserved to milk them to some degree, but come on, thats almsot 2 years ago now, double-digit trillions is enough to play for a while.

The worst part of your moaning is, that nobody is taking your tech moons away...you are basicly just crying about the fact,that you cant exploit your monopoly position anymore since you wont be the only one provinding PlaTe .... nothing else is happening to you, you still get your fair price for your tech, but thats apparently not enough.



To be clear, I'm not upset that Tech is getting nerfed, you know the PL model, and you know that I dont personally own a tech moon, I have my Titan and could really care less about the financial aspect of the issue.

Mainly i was concerned about fight generation, people aren't likely to sling billion at things worth a pittance, but as Fozzie reminded me, once upon a time people burned space just because they could.


So maybe they'll give me destructable stations and a pack of matches and turn me loose.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#866 - 2012-07-27 17:25:39 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
So maybe they'll give me destructable stations and a pack of matches and turn me loose.

oh hell yes

add destructible outposts to this patch and we'll have plenty of conflict sparkers to replace what you're taking away
Werst Dendenahzees
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#867 - 2012-07-27 17:44:26 UTC
Promiscuous Female wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
So maybe they'll give me destructable stations and a pack of matches and turn me loose.

oh hell yes

add destructible outposts to this patch and we'll have plenty of conflict sparkers to replace what you're taking away


Make them drop/explode things that are inside them just like ships.
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#868 - 2012-07-27 18:35:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Promiscuous Female
on a related note

can we get some comments on this: http://pastebin.com/fnuau8HH

it looks like exhumer/barge tank numbers are being adjusted downwards, but the shipBonusEmShieldResistanceORE3 is kinda nebulous

I understand that diffs like this are taken against data that is not finalized and that ship balance itself is never finalized, but the fate of moon goo is so intrinsically linked to ice prices that I'd like to paint a clear picture before I shitpost too much about things I have a less-than-perfect understanding of

edit: Thinking on it, is it just decoupling the shield resist bonus from the strip miner bonus, so you could increase yield without increasing the resists?
Hammer Legion Member
Doomheim
#869 - 2012-07-27 19:33:04 UTC
Promiscuous Female wrote:
on a related note

can we get some comments on this: http://pastebin.com/fnuau8HH


hi

You should try to ask that in the right thread

regards
HML


regards, HML
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#870 - 2012-07-27 19:38:32 UTC
Hammer Legion Member wrote:
Promiscuous Female wrote:
on a related note

can we get some comments on this: http://pastebin.com/fnuau8HH


hi

You should try to ask that in the right thread

regards
HML



It's interrelated.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Hammer Legion Member
Doomheim
#871 - 2012-07-27 20:06:53 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:

It's interrelated.


still the wrong topic:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121281&p=46 <---Mining stuff, this way

in this thread moaning and trolling MUST be connected directly to Technetium

regards
HML

regards, HML
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#872 - 2012-07-27 20:16:11 UTC
Hammer Legion Member wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:

It's interrelated.


still the wrong topic:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121281&p=46 <---Mining stuff, this way

in this thread moaning and trolling MUST be connected directly to Technetium

regards
HML

don't sign your posts

i dunno if you just skipped the last couple of pages but exhumers are directly connected to tech
Hammer Legion Member
Doomheim
#873 - 2012-07-27 20:46:29 UTC
Promiscuous Female wrote:


i dunno if you just skipped the last couple of pages but exhumers are directly connected to tech


not sure if you know the difference between directly and indirectly...

regards
HML



regards, HML
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#874 - 2012-07-27 20:51:52 UTC
"I'm not a mod but I'm going to pretend I am one"
- HML

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#875 - 2012-07-27 20:51:52 UTC
Hammer Legion Member wrote:
Promiscuous Female wrote:


i dunno if you just skipped the last couple of pages but exhumers are directly connected to tech


not sure if you know the difference between directly and indirectly...

regards
HML




don't sign your posts

let me put this into small words

tech is tied to ice

exhumers mine ice

they are directly related and if you don't see that you cannot be trusted to dress yourself
Hammer Legion Member
Doomheim
#876 - 2012-07-27 21:02:23 UTC
directly =Exhumers mine Technetium
indercty=Exhumers mine ice wich is required to build fuelblocks wich are required to keep POSes runnin that are moon mining Tech or reacting Platinum technite

regards
HML


regards, HML
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#877 - 2012-07-27 21:04:09 UTC
nope

indirectly infers that there are other factors

there aren't for tech

it's all ice all the time

don't sign your posts
Sigras
Conglomo
#878 - 2012-07-27 21:06:52 UTC
lol yeah cause factors like demand for T2, cartelling of other products, towers being destroyed . . . none of that effects the price of tech right?
Hammer Legion Member
Doomheim
#879 - 2012-07-27 21:17:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Hammer Legion Member
Promiscuous Female wrote:
nope

indirectly infers that there are other factors

there aren't for tech

it's all ice all the time

don't sign your posts


negative Captain
indirectly has nothing to do with other factors, it just means that your primary intention is something else
certain Exhumers are primary made to mine ice... agree? but secondary(hint for indirectly) to sell the ice for profit or keep it for his private Fuel-Block production. Dont feel ashamed now, this even happends to big boys.

regards
HML

regards, HML
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#880 - 2012-07-27 21:25:12 UTC
You're all terrible, and those who actually, unironically sign their posts are doubly terrible.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat