Science & Industry

Define Safe?

Definitions:
'You'll never be bothered because of it' : not safe.
'You'll always have time to pull it down before someone gets to attack it without concord intervening' : safe.
'Can't be blown up without a wardec' : Safe (well, probably. Technically it is possible to blow through defences with suicide ganks. Just very very expensive.)

Also, you can decrease the wardecs by putting the pos at the back end of forever.

I've had the same POS up for 4 years now, never a wardec, because it's a place nobody goes, nobody passes through.

If you're using the POS for research or manufacturing, this is terrible advice. Labs or assembly arrays on a pos in a non-station system means anyone who sees it knows there are blueprints inside.

Nothing is safe anywhere on eve, it’s a matter of how much do you **** people off.


Killing a pure ECM large tower in hsec needs atleast 10 people with a good 3 hours to spare.

If you bother to go defend the tower with atleast 2 PoS gunners, you will **** them horrendously unless they bring another 10 people.



So the question is, do you plan on pissing a lot of people off?






How do you intend on ganking something that goes invulnerable when shields go down?

Don't put it up in a 0.5 system, that'll attract people to dec you. Also, don't put it up 4 jumps from Jita. The only time I had an issue with a tower both of those were true. Never lost it, but got dec'd a few times.

All other times no one cared. Hell, I didn't even have it online for months and no one touched it. You don't even need to anchor guns.

Put up a large d!ckstar, and you'll probably be fine. Put up a small, and some schlub with five accounts will wardec you just to blow it up. Tiny penis syndrome, and all that.

Go medium in an out-of-the-way area, don't talk smack on forums/Local, and you'll probably be OK.

Corps can get standing to put up a tower in a 0.5 system easier than 0.6+ Thus, more demand for the easier route to put up a tower. You put up a weak tower in a 0.5 system that has no free moons (very likely) then you will be more likely to get wardec'd by a corp that wants one. I.e. if you are a solo corp vs. a large corp? Who do you think is going to get dec'd first?

I wouldn't worry about it too much. The most important thing is that you make it a dikstar. Only time people will care to bother you is if you specifically tell them to come at you bros

Second most important is that it's off the main highways. Doesn't have to be in some hole, just off the beaten path.

I've had a pos 4 jumps away from jita, in a 0.5 and next to low sec for years. So many "rules" broken...

What is a d*ckstar that everyone keeps referring to? I'm assuming it's a POS with EWAR defences that makes it a royal pita to take down?

I had a small tower in a busy high sec system with no defense other than a couple anchored offline hardeners for over a year without a single war dec, three labs and corp hanger in use.

I have now upgraded to a large tower. In my experience high sec POSes are very safe.

If someone wants to bash your POS they must war dec you first. 24 hours is plenty of time to move out anything valuable if not take it down completely before they can attack it. It costs them 50 mil to war dec and will take 6 ships with 8 large guns each several hours to pop a small tower. That is with no defenses. Even small towers have a decent shield recharge rate. It would take 20-30 ships to take down a high sec POS in any short amount of time. Who would bother with that amount of work and coordination with so little chance of any worthwhile loot.

POS bashing is very boring and nobody does it just for fun. At least not in high sec. There is almost no chance of them even making enough to pay for ammo unless they know you have something valuable in it, and know you will not be around to clean it out before they can take it down.

That generally means a spy. Why would anyone want to spy on you? Unless you are a huge corp or assosiated with a PVP character they hate you are safe.

If you have no enemies that are willing to go out of there way and do boring activity like POS bashing just to hurt you with very little return, you are very safe.

Do not do anything to make these types of enemies, keep your indy corp separate from your PVP activity. And never POST on the forums about having a POS with any active character that can be taced to said POS.. That is what forum alts are for.

This character, for example is in a private corp but not an active corp with assets to hit. I use him for forum posting, as a market alt for checking the active market in different hubs. Eventually he may become a PI and cyno alt but will never be linked to my main or indy toons through post or corp. Any one can war dec this corp, but they will never see a target in game, unless it is a market alt traveling between hubs in a noob ship.

No link to my indy corp, or my active characters.

It is very easy to keep a high sec POS very safe.

That does not mean you can not get war dec'ed, but there is very little chance if you avoid making yourself a target.