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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#41 - 2012-07-17 18:34:48 UTC
You don't name an entire ship line after a player to honor them. It reeks of favoritism. A popular player makes a name for himself under their own prowess. Which he has done.
A subtle nudge toward an individual or group in a very noninvasive way as in a easteregg that one would have to search for or stumble apon is a proper way for game designers to pay their respects.
Such as a 1% chance NPC "Veldnaught" ORE frigate found in some WH belt that drops a meta 4 miner upgrade.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2012-07-17 18:45:48 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
You don't name an entire ship line after a player to honor them. It reeks of favoritism. A popular player makes a name for himself under their own prowess. Which he has done.
A subtle nudge toward an individual or group in a very noninvasive way as in a easteregg that one would have to search for or stumble apon is a proper way for game designers to pay their respects.
Such as a 1% chance NPC "Veldnaught" ORE frigate found in some WH belt that drops a meta 4 miner upgrade.


Favoritism? I don't think so. I think it's a small gesture of gratitude that could be bestowed upon by CCP to someone who has contributed so much to our community. As for the naming convention, there are precedents to having things named after capsuleers:

Amarr Championship --> Ecliptical representing the House of Doriam Kor-Azor, having a system named after him after winning a simple tourney game that lasted for several minutes.

Eris --> As specified above, a ship named after a player who later became an employee of CCP.

Site One: Antiquus --> A site named after me, who is not even worthy of untying the thongs of Chribba's sandals.

What Chribba did trumps everything the above individuals did for EVE. I don't see why he shouldn't get a ship named after him.
Rudgier Thorrin
Noob Constructions LTD
#43 - 2012-07-17 19:00:17 UTC
In the thread linked on page 1 is an actually good idea:

Peacock McNuggets wrote:

Chribba's Modified Modulated Strip Miner II

The Modulated Strip Miner II uses many of the same frequency modulatin crystal technology as the Modulated Deep Core Miner II exept it lacks the deep core mining capacity of its smaller sibling.

Uses mining crystals.

Cannot fit a mercoxit mining crystal.

24% Extra yeild when fitted with veldspar mining crystal.

Note: 99.5% less CPU usage when fitted on a Dreadnought.

Implying I need a signature
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#44 - 2012-07-17 19:04:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
The Antiquarian wrote:

Favoritism? I don't think so. I think it's a small gesture of gratitude that could be bestowed upon by CCP to someone who has contributed so much to our community. As for the naming convention, there are precedents to having things named after capsuleers:

Amarr Championship --> Ecliptical representing the House of Doriam Kor-Azor, having a system named after him after winning a simple tourney game that lasted for several minutes.

Eris --> As specified above, a ship named after a player who later became an employee of CCP.

Site One: Antiquus --> A site named after me, who is not even worthy of untying the thongs of Chribba's sandals.

What Chribba did trumps everything the above individuals did for EVE. I don't see why he shouldn't get a ship named after him.


Antiquus is latin for old or ancient. that's not special nor named after you.
Eris is the greek goddess of strife. again, not special to an individual.
As for Eclipticals prize. CCPs interaction with the playerbase was different back then. BoB incident remember? There was a lot less to the game back in 03 so these types of changes effected very few people and it was in a proper lore perspective in crowning the new emperor.
Even the people who made the tier 3 BCs get no sort of personal mention. Not even the designs original names other than the Tornado.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2012-07-17 19:04:40 UTC
Rudgier Thorrin wrote:
In the thread linked on page 1 is an actually good idea:

Peacock McNuggets wrote:

Chribba's Modified Modulated Strip Miner II

The Modulated Strip Miner II uses many of the same frequency modulatin crystal technology as the Modulated Deep Core Miner II exept it lacks the deep core mining capacity of its smaller sibling.

Uses mining crystals.

Cannot fit a mercoxit mining crystal.

24% Extra yeild when fitted with veldspar mining crystal.

Note: 99.5% less CPU usage when fitted on a Dreadnought.


Suggesting a name for a ship that is already in the designing process is one thing, but having to create a single module from a scratch would require hundreds of CCP employees' hundreds of thousands of labor hour.

At the moment, I think having a ship named after Chribba is a more feasible choice.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-07-17 19:07:35 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:

Favoritism? I don't think so. I think it's a small gesture of gratitude that could be bestowed upon by CCP to someone who has contributed so much to our community. As for the naming convention, there are precedents to having things named after capsuleers:

Amarr Championship --> Ecliptical representing the House of Doriam Kor-Azor, having a system named after him after winning a simple tourney game that lasted for several minutes.

Eris --> As specified above, a ship named after a player who later became an employee of CCP.

Site One: Antiquus --> A site named after me, who is not even worthy of untying the thongs of Chribba's sandals.

What Chribba did trumps everything the above individuals did for EVE. I don't see why he shouldn't get a ship named after him.


Antiquus is latin for old or ancient. that's not special nor named after you.
Eris is the greek goddess of strife. again, not special.
As for Eclipticals prize. CCPs interaction with the playerbase was different back then. BoB incident remember? There was a lot less to the game back in 03 so these types of changes effected very few people and it was in a proper lore perspective in crowning the new emperor.


Do your search correctly.

"This site is named after the capsuleer known as "The Antiquarian" whose generous contributions played a large part in making this base in Eram a reality. "

There are already precedents where a system, a ship, or a site, has been named after an individual. Having CCP provide special acknowledgements to certain capsuleers who made EVE universe better, would be a "nice" gesture.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#47 - 2012-07-17 19:19:13 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:

Do your search correctly.

"This site is named after the capsuleer known as "The Antiquarian" whose generous contributions played a large part in making this base in Eram a reality. "

There are already precedents where a system, a ship, or a site, has been named after an individual. Having CCP provide special acknowledgements to certain capsuleers who made EVE universe better, would be a "nice" gesture.


Ok, so it was a reward for having the most items invested into the event. That was a reward for doing so in a special live event. You got a special cookie for a unique one time event. As it should be.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-07-17 19:20:43 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:

Do your search correctly.

"This site is named after the capsuleer known as "The Antiquarian" whose generous contributions played a large part in making this base in Eram a reality. "

There are already precedents where a system, a ship, or a site, has been named after an individual. Having CCP provide special acknowledgements to certain capsuleers who made EVE universe better, would be a "nice" gesture.


Ok, so it was a reward for having the most items invested into the event. That was a reward for doing so in a special live event. You got a special cookie for a unique one time event. As it should be.


Yes I got a special cookie for an action that benefited couple hundreds of EVE players. Chribba and many others have contributed something that impacted thousands, if not, tens of thousands of players. Which part do you not get?
Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-07-17 19:22:15 UTC
Don't care what it's named but it a dam cool design. I wish they redesigned all mining barges and the Dominix....
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#50 - 2012-07-17 19:25:55 UTC
Benjamin Eastwood wrote:
It was a troll post. I have no love for either players, but naming a ship after anyone not part of the actual lore of the game is an offensive and immersion breaking idea.


in the sand box we are the lore

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Benjamin Eastwood
#51 - 2012-07-17 20:32:30 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Benjamin Eastwood wrote:
It was a troll post. I have no love for either players, but naming a ship after anyone not part of the actual lore of the game is an offensive and immersion breaking idea.


in the sand box we are the lore


It's not your sandbox though. You're playing in CCP's sandbox, where the tractors are tractors and the buckets are buckets. WHy do you think they've been so hesitant to implement personalization of ships? Because they don't want the lore broken.

"Endless ISK, the sinews of war"
Ginger Barbarella
#52 - 2012-07-17 20:33:56 UTC
How about we just call it "Ugly"? Or "The New Gankbait"... All those Tier 3 that have been garaged since the bommerang fix have to be able to be used for something useful.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#53 - 2012-07-17 20:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Oh man, everyone in this thread is so bitter.

Lol

All I care about is whether or not I can stick guns on it and use it as a sheep's clothing gank boat.
Ginger Barbarella
#54 - 2012-07-17 20:41:34 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Oh man, everyone in this thread is so bitter.

Lol

All I care about is whether or not I can stick guns on it and use it as a sheep's clothing gank boat.


Slots for passive targeter and cargo/ship scanners? Twisted

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-07-17 20:44:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Akirei Scytale wrote:

All I care about is whether or not I can stick guns on it and use it as a sheep's clothing gank boat.


Since it is supposed to be run with regular mining lasers (afaik) and those take up gun slots, I would say yes...you could probably fit 3 guns.

hmmmm.....

and since it is surely intended that it can fit mining upgrades, there will be plenty of CPU, so a couple of magnetic field stabs II would fit easily ..now let's just hope the PG supports 3 blasters, and we are all set Twisted

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#56 - 2012-07-17 20:47:48 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:


Yes I got a special cookie for an action that benefited couple hundreds of EVE players. Chribba and many others have contributed something that impacted thousands, if not, tens of thousands of players. Which part do you not get?


The part that Chribba did in game for the nonexistent ORE event or otherwise to be rewarded a mention in or by the Frigate. Just naming anything simply for the fact a popular player is in that field of work within the game Isn't enough for me.
Knug LiDi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-07-17 20:59:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Knug LiDi
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:


Yes I got a special cookie for an action that benefited couple hundreds of EVE players. Chribba and many others have contributed something that impacted thousands, if not, tens of thousands of players. Which part do you not get?


The part that Chribba did in game for the nonexistent ORE event or otherwise to be rewarded a mention in or by the Frigate. Just naming anything simply for the fact a popular player is in that field of work within the game Isn't enough for me.


It is clear to me, that you have no idea what Chribba has done in the past, and how he continues to contribute.

Consideration to name a mining ship after Chribba is not due to him being popular. Or famous. Or even mining (although that has contributed to his notoriety). Read the community portrait. Visit EVE-files. Learn the history of the EVE community and you will understand.

I agree that Chribba does not roll of the tongue as a name of a mining frigate. Quite often, a class of ships is often named after the first ship of that class (i.e. the Los Angeles class of submarine). So naming this class of mining frigate after Chribba works just fine for me. I could name my Chribba-class mining frigate Rocky and be happy about it.

And by the way, saying "A Chribba-class mining frigate" does roll quite nicely off the tongue.

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without falling into her hands
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2012-07-17 23:10:27 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
Benjamin Eastwood wrote:
Why don't we just name it "Mittens"?


Comparing the Mittani to Chribba is equivalent to comparing Judas Iscariot to Jesus. Why would any game developer name a ship after a failed CSM Chair who brought negative publicity to EVE Online?

On the other hand, Chribba's contribution is tangible.

Chribba's made a few nice websites yes, but I don't think he's contributed to content in-game as much as The Mittani has. As chairman of the CSM he was after all in part to thank for CCP recognizing their colossal mistake with the Incarna expansion and contributing ideas for the successful Crucible expansion.

Or has everyone forgotten that already?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Skogen Gump
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-07-17 23:34:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Skogen Gump
James Amril-Kesh wrote:


Or has everyone forgotten that already?


Or more clearly you never understood it if you think the Incarna protests were down to, or successful because of the mittani ?
Or you think the fact that he was the chairman of the CSM that was elected at the time contributes to CCP changing its mind ?

In that argument, there's just as reason to call it the 'ORE Jade Constantine' because he was the first CSM chairman.

You clearly forget that the CSM didn't even get invited to iceland for the 'emergency' sessions until we'd all made such a massive stink on the forums and elsewhere and hundreds of people had to cancel their subscriptions.

You cannot compare this 'lucky?' being in the right place at the right time to the massive personal effort and actual real money *cost* that Chribba has given to our entire community.

The mittani is the public face of an entity that ostensibly exists the ruin the game for other people; Chribba is the exact opposite of that.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#60 - 2012-07-17 23:37:13 UTC
Chribnaut

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