EVE General Discussion

If you have a problem with Gate Camping blobs, here's a suggestion: Cloak, fly fast or bring a bigger blob yourself. And use a scout to... well, scout ahead for you.

Honestly, not sure what the fuss is all about but they can camp my gate anytime.

I sense hostile feelings in your words...

They should sneak in more security in the form of things that make the security up to the players. I am thinking of the often suggested Pirate Hunting License. if one has high enough sec status they can get said license from CONCORD and attack people below a certain rating with no loss to their own. Something like this just might bring more people to lowsec and more to lowsec even if they are PVPers means more things for everybody to shoot at.

~cultural victory~

Nah, that stuff about newbies and how terrible renter alliances are doesn't come up that much these days, with bleating hisec carebears trying to portray us as sociopaths or whatnot. We are all these things and incredibly rude to a lot of people. PS you forgot that we're blobbers and not nearly as good at this game as the ~elite pvp~ slumlords who treat their renter alliances like trash.

Alternatively the tighter CCP moderation have improved general discussion's tone, resulting in apparently nicer goons (*gasp*) from our own rude posts being removed along with a lot of the drivel that sparks our condescending attitude.

To address the topic, nah. 0.0 is supposed to be unforgiving, it's part of the game. The NPE could be improved to point newbies in the right direction (learning how to scout gates, encouraging players to only fly what they can afford to lose, joining a corporation, how to use map statistics, the basics on tackle and evading tackle), and CCP may be doing that right now, I haven't checked out the changes on sisi. Gates are one of those things give you that "run into a stranger" effect that Eve could easily lose with how huge solar systems are. On an anecdotal note, before I was even in goonswarm I was stocking the market in syndicate with a newbie frigate scout and a MWD + cloak exequror of all things (too new to use a blockade runner). It's risky, but doable once you understand the game mechanics.

You do realise that almost every aspect of Eve, is PvP.

Player verses player. Or to put it another way Eve, Everyone verses everyone.

Yup, same as what I said 12 pages ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with gatecamps. Take away gates as a point of contact, and you'll have an even harder time finding fights and generating content. However, the fact that this sad tale of the lone newb's first experience beyond hisec is so common is an issue that needs to be addressed by CCP in their game design, specifically their transition process for new players.

Join a W-space corp thats active and effectively never get camped in anywhere ever again.

Most people have no idea how mobile w-space residents can be ^_^

Nothing has changed. A part of Goonswarm's culture is to cherish our newbies and has been since the day Remedial founded Goonfleet. All those pilots steam rolling the Soco with Tengu fleets and Super Caps, started the game by being handed a stack of skill books and rifters and being paired up with a mentor.

Same with the renter part. Rather than rent space we create strong alliances with other player organizations base on mutual respect and self-interest. Diplomacy is something we take very seriously at an alliance level. Turns out when you don't treat your friends and neighbors like dirt they'll be there for you when you need them. This is a concept that is so foreign to so many folks playing Eve-Online that they continue to call our allies pets.

Those of you who aren't blue or have spat on our olive branch? You can all go die in your own filth.

Edit: And not offering constructive suggestions when you have a decent answer is just petty.

We don't actually have renters. None of our allies pay us a cent to own the space they have, that space belongs to them; they fought for it alongside us, its theirs. Corporations that are a part of the Goonswarm Federation pay a small per-capita tax every month to cover their share of the alliance bill. Individual members do not pay anything to be a part of the swarm.