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Afk mining - What exactly is there to do while mining?
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Amenotep Polo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-07-16 15:57:49 UTC
People seem to not have understood the point of my post.

I posted this because i keep reading people complaining about afk mining, and honestly i don't see what all the fuss is about.

I love mining. It's a profitable activity and it alows me to do other stuff while i play. What i don't seem to get though is what all the fuss is about, considering afk mining.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#22 - 2012-07-16 16:05:19 UTC
Amenotep Polo wrote:
People seem to not have understood the point of my post.

I posted this because i keep reading people complaining about afk mining, and honestly i don't see what all the fuss is about.

I love mining. It's a profitable activity and it alows me to do other stuff while i play. What i don't seem to get though is what all the fuss is about, considering afk mining.

People that complain about afk mining don't come to the industry/mining forums to complain about it.

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CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#23 - 2012-07-16 16:06:55 UTC
Missioners, PVPers, Industrialists, and just about every other 'job' in EVE require active monitoring and control to ensure things go as planned.

Anyone can nudge up to a rock, hit F1, and go away for a bit. It's a no-skill / no-effort lazy job in EVE. As such...the fact that some miners think they can skitter off into AFK-land tends to mean that those who believe being lazy for a living is a farce...nuke the dogshit out of miners.

Rule of thumb? Don't be a lazy-boat. Be active. Otherwise you are assumed to simply be a bot and get treated as such.
Amenotep Polo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-07-16 16:13:03 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Missioners, PVPers, Industrialists, and just about every other 'job' in EVE require active monitoring and control to ensure things go as planned.

Anyone can nudge up to a rock, hit F1, and go away for a bit. It's a no-skill / no-effort lazy job in EVE. As such...the fact that some miners think they can skitter off into AFK-land tends to mean that those who believe being lazy for a living is a farce...nuke the dogshit out of miners.

Rule of thumb? Don't be a lazy-boat. Be active. Otherwise you are assumed to simply be a bot and get treated as such.


Which brings me back to me first post:

Active doing what?
Dave stark
#25 - 2012-07-16 16:17:58 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Missioners, PVPers, Industrialists, and just about every other 'job' in EVE require active monitoring and control to ensure things go as planned.

Anyone can nudge up to a rock, hit F1, and go away for a bit. It's a no-skill / no-effort lazy job in EVE. As such...the fact that some miners think they can skitter off into AFK-land tends to mean that those who believe being lazy for a living is a farce...nuke the dogshit out of miners.

Rule of thumb? Don't be a lazy-boat. Be active. Otherwise you are assumed to simply be a bot and get treated as such.


implying that you can't afk combat missions in a drone boat...
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#26 - 2012-07-16 16:27:21 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Missioners, PVPers, Industrialists, and just about every other 'job' in EVE require active monitoring and control to ensure things go as planned.

Anyone can nudge up to a rock, hit F1, and go away for a bit. It's a no-skill / no-effort lazy job in EVE. As such...the fact that some miners think they can skitter off into AFK-land tends to mean that those who believe being lazy for a living is a farce...nuke the dogshit out of miners.

Rule of thumb? Don't be a lazy-boat. Be active. Otherwise you are assumed to simply be a bot and get treated as such.


implying that you can't afk combat missions in a drone boat...



Drone boats in missions still require monitoring of said drones, otherwise the NPCs that spawn after the initial waves will simply kill them all and leave you slowboating off into the sunset. You also have to manage / lock targets to help negate any webs, disruptor/scramblers, etc.

Mining is a fleet activity. In truth, it's not glamorous nor entertaining, but when you're out there with others it becomes far more bearable. I never enjoyed solo-mining, I had to be in a fleet talking and chatting away with folk, conceptualizing various builds or coordinating who was hitting which rocks, where to put the haulers (later ORCAs).


Dave stark
#27 - 2012-07-16 17:14:42 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Missioners, PVPers, Industrialists, and just about every other 'job' in EVE require active monitoring and control to ensure things go as planned.

Anyone can nudge up to a rock, hit F1, and go away for a bit. It's a no-skill / no-effort lazy job in EVE. As such...the fact that some miners think they can skitter off into AFK-land tends to mean that those who believe being lazy for a living is a farce...nuke the dogshit out of miners.

Rule of thumb? Don't be a lazy-boat. Be active. Otherwise you are assumed to simply be a bot and get treated as such.


implying that you can't afk combat missions in a drone boat...



Drone boats in missions still require monitoring of said drones, otherwise the NPCs that spawn after the initial waves will simply kill them all and leave you slowboating off into the sunset. You also have to manage / lock targets to help negate any webs, disruptor/scramblers, etc.

Mining is a fleet activity. In truth, it's not glamorous nor entertaining, but when you're out there with others it becomes far more bearable. I never enjoyed solo-mining, I had to be in a fleet talking and chatting away with folk, conceptualizing various builds or coordinating who was hitting which rocks, where to put the haulers (later ORCAs).



and miners don't have to monitor targets for asteroids popping, and manage their cargo space, and watch out for gankers...

mining is a perfectly fine solo activity.
Infinite Force
#28 - 2012-07-16 18:33:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinite Force
Dave stark wrote:
and miners don't have to monitor targets for asteroids popping, and manage their cargo space, and watch out for gankers...

mining is a perfectly fine solo activity.

qft

- If you don't like exploration, then don't do it and don't complain about it.
- If you don't like mining, then don't do it and don't complain about it.
- If you don't like [insert activity], then don't do said activity and don't complain about it.

Guess what? Someone likes to do said activity.

I don't like Nascar, but guess what? Some people do - and that's great for them!

Per OP topic: "Afk mining - What exactly is there to do while mining?"

They are mutually exclusive. If you're AFK - you're NOT at your keyboard. Maybe you're doing laundry, dishes, mowing the yard, washing your car, fixing that bike tire, taking a nap, visiting with your neighbors (ewww, social interaction :P). Who knows, you might even be at the store.

Also, anyone leaving their ship just floating in space and unattended, is asking for it to be shot at (regardless of what it is or where it's at).


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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-07-16 19:00:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Victoria Sin
As I work during the week I mostly play at weekends. At the moment I can watch/listen to the Alliance tournament. When that's not on I go through the In Our Time archives and listen to interesting audio-shows from it.

In Our Time Archives (BBC)

Mining is kind-of sedentary. In null-sec I'm constantly (and tediously) watching local/intel as well as managing cyles and dealing with rats. In high sec it's pretty much the same. High sec can be more dangerous than null because you don't have that intel!
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#30 - 2012-07-16 19:13:28 UTC
Infinite Force wrote:

Anyone leaving their ship just floating in space and unattended, is asking for it to be shot at (regardless of what it is or where it's at).



QFT.

Farming afk miners for drops is also a legitimate business.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#31 - 2012-07-16 20:16:25 UTC
I have complained about afk mining in the past. However, my problem is not with those who choose to do the activity. It is with those who afk mine, get blown up, and then come to the forums to demand changes so that they can afk mine without getting blown up.
Infinite Force
#32 - 2012-07-16 20:24:45 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
... However, my problem is not with those who choose to do the activity. It is with those who afk mine, get blown up, and then come to the forums to demand changes so that they can afk mine without getting blown up.

QFT.

This needs to be in everyone's signature!

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-07-16 20:43:31 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
implying that you can't afk combat missions in a drone boat...


Of course you can if I can afk Sansha Blockade in Abaddon.
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#34 - 2012-07-16 22:10:32 UTC
Infinite Force wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
and miners don't have to monitor targets for asteroids popping, and manage their cargo space, and watch out for gankers...

mining is a perfectly fine solo activity.

qft

- If you don't like exploration, then don't do it and don't complain about it.
- If you don't like mining, then don't do it and don't complain about it.
- If you don't like [insert activity], then don't do said activity and don't complain about it.

Guess what? Someone likes to do said activity.

I don't like Nascar, but guess what? Some people do - and that's great for them!

Per OP topic: "Afk mining - What exactly is there to do while mining?"

They are mutually exclusive. If you're AFK - you're NOT at your keyboard. Maybe you're doing laundry, dishes, mowing the yard, washing your car, fixing that bike tire, taking a nap, visiting with your neighbors (ewww, social interaction :P). Who knows, you might even be at the store.

Also, anyone leaving their ship just floating in space and unattended, is asking for it to be shot at (regardless of what it is or where it's at).


OP trolling of a "dead-horse" topic - 2/10.



Well said.

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Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#35 - 2012-07-17 08:59:16 UTC
Mining is fine. Only problem is the ADHD kids that can´t do it by themselves, so they whine about it on forums.

I love mining.

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Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#36 - 2012-07-17 08:59:54 UTC
Zyella Stormborn wrote:
Infinite Force wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
and miners don't have to monitor targets for asteroids popping, and manage their cargo space, and watch out for gankers...

mining is a perfectly fine solo activity.

qft

- If you don't like exploration, then don't do it and don't complain about it.
- If you don't like mining, then don't do it and don't complain about it.
- If you don't like [insert activity], then don't do said activity and don't complain about it.

Guess what? Someone likes to do said activity.

I don't like Nascar, but guess what? Some people do - and that's great for them!

Per OP topic: "Afk mining - What exactly is there to do while mining?"

They are mutually exclusive. If you're AFK - you're NOT at your keyboard. Maybe you're doing laundry, dishes, mowing the yard, washing your car, fixing that bike tire, taking a nap, visiting with your neighbors (ewww, social interaction :P). Who knows, you might even be at the store.

Also, anyone leaving their ship just floating in space and unattended, is asking for it to be shot at (regardless of what it is or where it's at).


OP trolling of a "dead-horse" topic - 2/10.



Well said.

Yeah, really well said.
Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#37 - 2012-07-17 09:04:54 UTC
Also, how you can tell that someone is AFK and mining?

I am not moving while I am mining, I am not chatting at local, I don´t care if someone bumps my ship. Basically there isn´t any way to tell if I am at the keyboard or not.

I just warp at the belt, activate lasers, wait that cargohold is full and warp back to station.

However, I do lot´s of stuff in the meantime in the game that nobody can´t see me doing.
Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#38 - 2012-07-17 09:06:17 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Missioners, PVPers, Industrialists, and just about every other 'job' in EVE require active monitoring and control to ensure things go as planned.

Anyone can nudge up to a rock, hit F1, and go away for a bit. It's a no-skill / no-effort lazy job in EVE. As such...the fact that some miners think they can skitter off into AFK-land tends to mean that those who believe being lazy for a living is a farce...nuke the dogshit out of miners.

Rule of thumb? Don't be a lazy-boat. Be active. Otherwise you are assumed to simply be a bot and get treated as such.

Everyone can warp in to mission with tengu and hit F1. And again. And again. And again.....
Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#39 - 2012-07-17 09:10:35 UTC
PVP in fleet is totally same than mining in fleet.

You simply just press JUMP and F1 at times and that´s it.

FC warps you around and sometimes you will have to enable your point.

And when you starting thinking about it, EVE is pretty boring game, but it looks pretty.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#40 - 2012-07-17 10:40:19 UTC
The funny thing about all this is that you don't need to read the threads whining about afk miners or reply to any of them. Ignoring people who complain is probably one of my favorite things to try to do now since that's pretty much all the internet is for these days. If someone annoys you by whining, annoy them back by not listening. I haven't yet seen a thread/post/comment where someone replied to someone whining and that person changed their mind. So really what's the point?

Just ignore them. Maybe they'll catch on that all they are doing is complaining and eventually shut up.

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