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Nulli Secunda Joining Amarr FW

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Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#61 - 2012-07-16 23:46:55 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
...I'm going to drink a bottle of rum in the hopes that I forget ...



Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Bottle #2!


Sweetheart... Proper rum consists of 75% of Ethanol (75% pure alcohol although there is variations 40% - 95%). If You will be consuming it by bottles... You will either die from alcohol intoxication or Your ship will blow up from ignition of ethanol vapor.
Switch to weed and mushrooms Lol
Hurtado Soneka
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-07-17 02:18:26 UTC
Hope these guys have magic wands, goons lp banks will have the matari in T5 until Iceland gets nuked in world war 3
Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch
#63 - 2012-07-17 05:29:31 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
I can't help but imagine that if a group of Faction Warfare pilots were caught in a burning building, they'd die of asphyxiation while they argued over whether to lower an escape ladder out of a window or whether to chance the stairs.... Lol


You dont have to imagine. Just play this classic scene from Babylon 5....
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#64 - 2012-07-17 05:57:28 UTC
Yuri Intaki wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
I can't help but imagine that if a group of Faction Warfare pilots were caught in a burning building, they'd die of asphyxiation while they argued over whether to lower an escape ladder out of a window or whether to chance the stairs.... Lol


You dont have to imagine. Just play this classic scene from Babylon 5....


That is by far the best video response I've seen in factional warfare :)
Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
#65 - 2012-07-17 06:33:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Juan Rayo
Welcome Nulli to FW. Have fun.
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#66 - 2012-07-17 09:52:13 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
NA will realize what Fweddit and everyone else already knows. The war is "won" with afk plexers and farming alts. Once they realize it's not even won by fleet battles, they'll leave.



I have to disagree with that, the war isnt won by farmers, it was won (only in terms of space held) becasue amarr guys couldnt be arsed to go out and plex that much as the rewards for doing so arnt actually that great, the war in terms of fights and fun is defiantely not over. Still allot of fights to be had.

If we had a group that could be bothered to take back space by plexing all day then we could do it but with the way the system works at the moment its not really worth spending all that time plexing for such awfull LP sotre rewards. Im looking forward to nulli joining, should be awesome
Ash Stewart
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#67 - 2012-07-17 11:59:06 UTC
Loko Morice wrote:
Nulli Secunda Alliance meeting: http://soundcloud.com/necronian/s2n-alliance-meeting

They have officially stated that they are joining Amarr FW...and that their intentions are to drive the Amarr to T5. I'm particularly interested by their goal; I have no doubt they will easily wipe the floor with anything the minmatar bring against them in large fights or on ihubs. I am less optimistic about them overcoming the army of plex-farmers that will try to undo any progress they make.

Thoughts?


Thoughts? ............ you clearly underestimate us!

plex farmers?.................. YEA... a menace!

.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger...............
Ash Stewart
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#68 - 2012-07-17 12:13:19 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Markius TheShed wrote:
By the end of today or tomorrow Amarr could be down to 2 systems Sosala and Kamela, So someone new to play with is very welcome as our current playmates are broken.



Considering Amarr (mostly) gave up on sov war a month or so ago, you've taken a mighty long ass time to get us down to that few.

Also Confirming removing all Amarr systems ends the war and we all go back to high sec that's now owned by minnies. Hurray.

Wait, whats that you say, we're carrying on fighting no matter what? Its an endless war you say, so no actually way of winning. Hmm.

I'm gonna stop trolling you now cause the fact you think owning all systems matters, embarrasses you enough all ready. Anyone stupid enough to make all their isk purely from FW has had an alt in the Matar for a while now. Sov is no more then a way of making the grind easier.

The only way we're actually going to give a **** about it, is if we want cheap as hell Navy Geddons. Until then, own as many systems as you like. Cause it matters so so much.RollRoll

Inb4 you make some asinine comment about taking Kamela and forcing us to move.


Station Locks outs mean nothing, - Because you can drop, move, rejoin
System Control means nothing, - Because it takes 1 day to get your just made matar toon picking up L4s.
You super high Teir System means nothing - Because everyone else is also getting to use it, on their alts.

Sure it'll be the same if we get full control, but no fucks will still be given then. It simply doesn't matter beyond a 1 day DT to DT moving op.



you clearly had an issue with us taking Kamela before the patch! --- As i recall, you had to call in backup from your 'Gallente' friends!

No use denying it............... I WAS THERE! .........Im telling you................. I WAS THERE!................... :P

.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger...............
Loko Morice
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-07-17 12:36:01 UTC
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
NA will realize what Fweddit and everyone else already knows. The war is "won" with afk plexers and farming alts. Once they realize it's not even won by fleet battles, they'll leave.



I have to disagree with that, the war isnt won by farmers, it was won (only in terms of space held) becasue amarr guys couldnt be arsed to go out and plex that much...If we had a group that could be bothered to take back space by plexing all day then we could do it but...


So...farming plexes.
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#70 - 2012-07-17 12:48:35 UTC
Loko Morice wrote:
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
NA will realize what Fweddit and everyone else already knows. The war is "won" with afk plexers and farming alts. Once they realize it's not even won by fleet battles, they'll leave.



I have to disagree with that, the war isnt won by farmers, it was won (only in terms of space held) becasue amarr guys couldnt be arsed to go out and plex that much...If we had a group that could be bothered to take back space by plexing all day then we could do it but...


So...farming plexes.


Hard to farm plexes if you have fleets up blocking gates and camping entrances, i would argue fleets and fleet fights are just as important
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-07-17 13:08:36 UTC
Our farmers will blot out the sun
Dan Carter Murray
#72 - 2012-07-17 13:21:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Dan Carter Murray
Winston Hamilton wrote:
Gritz1 wrote:
I for one welcome our soon to be nulli seconds overlords.


sup

looking forward to my amarr bros showing us nulliers the ropes of FW. should be a good time.


Here are some samples of what normally happens when nullbears go to fight in FW space:
http://i.imgur.com/qfZ28.png
http://i.imgur.com/k624Y.png
http://i.imgur.com/7VfEz.png

I hope you guys do your research (takes 10 minutes to not get a pic made)

Also:
  • get to know plex sizes and their restrictions ( http://i.imgur.com/e8xnt.jpg )
  • to flip a system you need ships of all sizes ( http://i.imgur.com/n4Nrg.png )
  • you won't flip a system in 1 day ( http://i.imgur.com/qShFU.png )
  • it's always a trap ( http://i.imgur.com/ygusP.png )
  • iron oxide will bring 2x your numbers ( http://i.imgur.com/xkeZV.png )
  • prepare for the blob ( http://i.imgur.com/nd2bM.png )
  • set your overview for FW (avoid http://i.imgur.com/y2XFS.png )
  • minmatar uses boosters, you should too ( http://i.imgur.com/ryMAE.png )

    • Good luck.

    http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com
    IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
    Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
    #73 - 2012-07-17 13:39:57 UTC
    Dan Carter Murray wrote:
    Good luck.


    What nothing about the SFI being overpowered? but thats my favourite one!
    Major Killz
    inglorious bastards.
    #74 - 2012-07-17 13:43:24 UTC
    nullisecunda wont save u.

    [u]Ich bin ein Pirat ！[/u]
    Vordak Kallager
    Descendance.
    GoonSwarm.
    #75 - 2012-07-17 14:42:06 UTC
    Dan Carter Murray wrote:
    Winston Hamilton wrote:
    Gritz1 wrote:
    I for one welcome our soon to be nulli seconds overlords.


    sup

    looking forward to my amarr bros showing us nulliers the ropes of FW. should be a good time.


    Here are some samples of what normally happens when nullbears go to fight in FW space:
    http://i.imgur.com/qfZ28.png
    http://i.imgur.com/k624Y.png
    http://i.imgur.com/7VfEz.png

    I hope you guys do your research (takes 10 minutes to not get a pic made)

    Also:
  • get to know plex sizes and their restrictions ( http://i.imgur.com/e8xnt.jpg )
  • to flip a system you need ships of all sizes ( http://i.imgur.com/n4Nrg.png )
  • you won't flip a system in 1 day ( http://i.imgur.com/qShFU.png )
  • it's always a trap ( http://i.imgur.com/ygusP.png )
  • iron oxide will bring 2x your numbers ( http://i.imgur.com/xkeZV.png )
  • prepare for the blob ( http://i.imgur.com/nd2bM.png )
  • set your overview for FW (avoid http://i.imgur.com/y2XFS.png )
  • minmatar uses boosters, you should too ( http://i.imgur.com/ryMAE.png )

    • Good luck.


    You have way too much time on your hands.

    Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
    Loko Morice
    Garoun Investment Bank
    Gallente Federation
    #76 - 2012-07-17 15:46:54 UTC
    IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
    Dan Carter Murray wrote:
    Good luck.


    What nothing about the SFI being overpowered? but thats my favourite one!


    No one thinks it's overpowered. It's just the ultra-counter to thrashers and frigates. So they're the bane of Fweddit's existance.

    Being able to get them for practically nothing...well that might be a bit overpowered :P
    Major Killz
    inglorious bastards.
    #77 - 2012-07-17 16:09:48 UTC
    Nulli's blob only works versus other blobs. They fail when it comes to small or medium gang warfare and have been spanked in their own space many times because of this. It's nothing new. The same has been done to PL. If you have a large group of pilots commited to destroying ships in your area that have no interest in facing you head to head. You will have massive losses on a continuous basis.

    Not to mention. There are entities in low security space that are VERY POWERFUL in thier own right and can engage and smash null sec alliances effectively and do often.

    Any large alliance that is worth their salt knows the limitations of being large. Most pilots are sheep, terrible and need to be lead. You cannot blob your way to defeating guerilla style warfare. Which was developed to engage larger entities with limited units and resources.

    Nulli will be effective when it comes to hitting bunkers though. If they get to that point @ all.

    If you could have an alliance of pilots experienced in guerilla/skirmish warfare @ around 400 - 700 pilots strong. That's something different.

    Then again. Nulli could just start basing in one system and camp it untill they flip it and cont to do the same untill they get a whole constellation. Either way. Its something they have to commit to and not half or quarter @ss like Soco did in Delve (drop super capitals or go home). Go in b@lls deep or leave TBH...


    - end of transmission

    [u]Ich bin ein Pirat ！[/u]
    sYnc Vir
    Wolfsbrigade
    Ghost Legion.
    #78 - 2012-07-17 16:29:38 UTC
    Dan Carter Murray wrote:
    Winston Hamilton wrote:
    Gritz1 wrote:
    I for one welcome our soon to be nulli seconds overlords.


    sup

    looking forward to my amarr bros showing us nulliers the ropes of FW. should be a good time.


    Here are some samples of what normally happens when nullbears go to fight in FW space:
    http://i.imgur.com/qfZ28.png
    http://i.imgur.com/k624Y.png
    http://i.imgur.com/7VfEz.png

    I hope you guys do your research (takes 10 minutes to not get a pic made)

    Also:
  • get to know plex sizes and their restrictions ( http://i.imgur.com/e8xnt.jpg )
  • to flip a system you need ships of all sizes ( http://i.imgur.com/n4Nrg.png )
  • you won't flip a system in 1 day ( http://i.imgur.com/qShFU.png )
  • it's always a trap ( http://i.imgur.com/ygusP.png )
  • iron oxide will bring 2x your numbers ( http://i.imgur.com/xkeZV.png )
  • prepare for the blob ( http://i.imgur.com/nd2bM.png )
  • set your overview for FW (avoid http://i.imgur.com/y2XFS.png )
  • minmatar uses boosters, you should too ( http://i.imgur.com/ryMAE.png )

    • Good luck.



    You're wrong about us FYI. Our alts don't plex or fleet with minnies. Well mine fleets with them but that's because hes a pvp alt and has been in minnies for over a year now Yay. Everyone else uses them to pick up mission and that's it. So yah, please if you're going to be all bitchy about stuff, could you at lease get the reason to be bitchy correct. Kinda important.

    Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
    Loko Morice
    Garoun Investment Bank
    Gallente Federation
    #79 - 2012-07-17 17:17:10 UTC
    Major Killz wrote:
    Nulli's blob only works versus other blobs. They fail when it comes to small or medium gang warfare and have been spanked in their own space many times because of this. It's nothing new. The same has been done to PL. If you have a large group of pilots commited to destroying ships in your area that have no interest in facing you head to head. You will have massive losses on a continuous basis.

    Not to mention. There are entities in low security space that are VERY POWERFUL in thier own right and can engage and smash null sec alliances effectively and do often.

    Any large alliance that is worth their salt knows the limitations of being large. Most pilots are sheep, terrible and need to be lead. You cannot blob your way to defeating guerilla style warfare. Which was developed to engage larger entities with limited units and resources.

    Nulli will be effective when it comes to hitting bunkers though. If they get to that point @ all.

    If you could have an alliance of pilots experienced in guerilla/skirmish warfare @ around 400 - 700 pilots strong. That's something different.

    Then again. Nulli could just start basing in one system and camp it untill they flip it and cont to do the same untill they get a whole constellation. Either way. Its something they have to commit to and not half or quarter @ss like Soco did in Delve (drop super capitals or go home). Go in b@lls deep or leave TBH...


    - end of transmission


    I feel like you have no idea who Nulli is, or what their strengths and weaknesses are. I also think you are severely overestimating the abilities of FW players compared to their null-sec counterparts. PLEASE point out an entitity in low security space that is, "VERY POWERFUL" compared to any serious null-sec alliance. Nulli is more organized, has better fleet doctrines, and on average has better players than anyone in faction warfare. I've fought against Nulli, the minmatar, and the amarr and I can assure you of that fact.

    All that I question is their commitment to plexing, and if they can find a sound strategy to maintain systems they take.

    And guerilla style warfare in EVE is just a bullshit propaganda mechanism. Under dogs hype it all the time. Guess what? We're in space. There's no where to go hide unless you just dock up. The closest thing to an ambush is a gate camp, which are easily scouted and reported instantaneously to everyone in an intel channel. There is no terrain and no locals you can blend into and be supported by. The closest thing to it is heavy use of bombers; something you can't ******* do in low-sec. It's just a ****** comparison in general.

    Dan Carter Murray
    #80 - 2012-07-17 17:55:26 UTC
    sYnc Vir wrote:
    Dan Carter Murray wrote:
    Winston Hamilton wrote:
    Gritz1 wrote:
    I for one welcome our soon to be nulli seconds overlords.


    sup

    looking forward to my amarr bros showing us nulliers the ropes of FW. should be a good time.


    Here are some samples of what normally happens when nullbears go to fight in FW space:
    http://i.imgur.com/qfZ28.png
    http://i.imgur.com/k624Y.png
    http://i.imgur.com/7VfEz.png

    I hope you guys do your research (takes 10 minutes to not get a pic made)

    Also:
  • get to know plex sizes and their restrictions ( http://i.imgur.com/e8xnt.jpg )
  • to flip a system you need ships of all sizes ( http://i.imgur.com/n4Nrg.png )
  • you won't flip a system in 1 day ( http://i.imgur.com/qShFU.png )
  • it's always a trap ( http://i.imgur.com/ygusP.png )
  • iron oxide will bring 2x your numbers ( http://i.imgur.com/xkeZV.png )
  • prepare for the blob ( http://i.imgur.com/nd2bM.png )
  • set your overview for FW (avoid http://i.imgur.com/y2XFS.png )
  • minmatar uses boosters, you should too ( http://i.imgur.com/ryMAE.png )

    • Good luck.



    You're wrong about us FYI. Our alts don't plex or fleet with minnies. Well mine fleets with them but that's because hes a pvp alt and has been in minnies for over a year now Yay. Everyone else uses them to pick up mission and that's it. So yah, please if you're going to be all bitchy about stuff, could you at lease get the reason to be bitchy correct. Kinda important.


    not bitchy, just giving nulli some pointers through pictures

    http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com