EVE General Discussion

I like spaceships and I hate trolls and the such, not many options out there for me.


I came across and article about that guy that got robbed for $11,000 and was murdered by his own corp. Was first confused how they got real money out of him, than I saw spaceships were involved and didn't care about the money anymore. Signed up for a trial.

2006, I came for the theme, stayed for the depth.

I have been into multi-player gaming since text muds. My favorite was an open sandbox game called Dartmud where dead meant dead, and pvp was the thing.

Played UO when it came out - it was missing something, but had some pvp.
Played EQ for 4 years when it came out - never could get decent PvP from it.
Played Planetside - it was awesome but not deep enough for the sub cost.
Played WoW for a few months - tired of it quickly.
Played Lotro here and there because of Tolkien.
Tried DDO because of D&D - sucked.
Played pvp Neverwinter Nights hosted worlds a lot - was pretty decent fun, but hosted worlds came and went, and good ones were rare.

One day I saw a bunch of Eve online ads starting to permeate my gaming site advertisements and started looking into it. Then a friend I was playing D&D with mentioned he was trying it, and so was his friend, and they said it was soo cool.

My favorite features then and now were the sandbox world, player economy, ability to build most anything yourself, consequences to pvp, everyone on one server, and the fact that i could get on with playing the game right off the bat and let time take care of grinding out skill points for me.

My work buddy told me about it. I immediately became interested in ECM and wanted to fly a Scorpion. Started one account, the second a week later. Playing 3 1/2 years.I now have 2 characters with every Electronice Skill at V. I mostly fly Scorpions, Navy Scorpions, Manticore and Armageddons...

Got 30 Million SP in Gunnery on my way to Gunnery maxed out....

Loved X3, wanted more... Sadly this game appears to an MMO, and I'm not too fond of the people.

I guess I'm just killing time until Rebirth comes out.

Reminded me of a slightly beefed up "Trade Wars" with cheesier dialog.

Then it was a bit like "Privateers" without the bad animated cut scenes.

Been here since 2006 baring a few short breaks for divorce, job change, re-married... etc.....

Maybe some people should take serious note of I am about to say at the end of this post, because it is something that CCP is obviously aware of no matter how much the rest of the community denies it.

I fall into an ever growing demographic called "Gamers Over 30." This means that I have many things going on my life besides gaming. I have a job, a house, a family, and enough bills to choke a horse. While I still enjoy gaming, I don't really have sixteen hours a day to devote to it like the little kiddies do. I actually share this account with my sister, because it takes the two of us combined to even get ten or twelve hours a week logged in (plus it saves money - see "bills," above).

Now with every other MMO out there, success is based on one thing only: Pointless grinding to an artificial ceiling. They're fixed templates with only two levels, "max" and "noob" and anything less than "max" is "noob." They also tend to attract a really immature crowd because of this model, as only unemployed teenagers (by and large) have that kind of free time to blow on grinding up characters all day, every day, for months on end.

EvE does not use this model. If I queue up a skill that takes two weeks to train, then it does not matter if I spend two weeks sitting in front of the computer 23/7 or if I spend twelve days sipping a daiquiris by the pool (or, more realistically, putting in overtime at work). Nothing that I do in game is going to speed up or slow down this process (barring cyber implants).

Which means for those of us in the "Gamers Over 30" demographic, EvE is a very good choice of MMOs. One could say that it's possibly even the only valid choice of MMOs, since there is no real incentive to ruin your real life in some mad obsession with the game (I'm looking at you, WoW). In the end, the only thing tireless grinding gets you in EvE is ISK and maybe some loot drops. It gets you the money to buy ships, but it doesn't get you the skills to actually fly them. That takes time & time alone.

In other words, EvE is the only MMO that actually encourages players to go outside and get a life. The time caps would frustrate your typical fifteen year old ritalin popping WoW player to the point of insanity. But those of us with an active real life, knowing that you can still keep pace with those kids without having to drop to their level of obsession is a big, big plus.

And that is also why we (sis & myself) are what you'd call "hi-sec carebares." It's not that we don't approve of all the PvP mass fleet warfare. We love the YouTube videos of the thousand ship battles that look like the 4th of July. It's awesome. I have no doubt that it's really fun, too. But honestly? We just don't have the time, energy, or motivation to dump that much effort into the game. We're what the marketing guys call "causal gamers" and we like a casual play style that relieves more stress than it causes. When we're having to hit D-Scan every fifteen seconds and worrying about some fleet jumping in top of out investments, that's not fun for us, and it's not really what we want to pay for. That's the important part: Because no matter how "leet" your toon(s) are, at the end of the day we pay the same subscription fees as every other player out there that isn't out PLEX farming. I'm pretty sure that CCP, being a business, factors that into their decision making process.

Hi-sec players don't go invading null-sec in gank fleets to "tears" the null-sec players into unsubscribing. It's always the reverse that happens. In other words, it appears to me that it's not so much "hi-sec vs. null-sec" as it is "casual gamers vs. hardcore gamers." In the end, it's CCP's accountants who will decide who gets the buffs and who gets the nerfs, and if one group starts griefing another into unsubbing, well then that group is cutting into CCP's profit margin. Expect an appropriate response.

And now I go off to bed. Gotta get up early for work... again.

This:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyYZmwhJ5YY

So marvellously epic and immersive.

Followed by seeing the screenshots on the homepage.

That really was an epic trailer.

GRAPHICS!

Do I have to say more?