These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
123Next page
 

nerf solo pcvp
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-14 22:51:59 UTC
solo pvp is overpowerd

did you know tat one guy in a kestrel can kill someone in a battleship because apparantly they can. a battleship in the real world has lots of point defenses and stuff that let it protect itself from the small ships but in eve my battlesjip has no defense against anythng smaller than a battleship!

if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong wth the game because in every other game you cant be killed by people who are a lowr level than you. kestrel is a frigate and frigates are low level ships for new players so why can a kestrel beat a raven I ask you?

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.

im a pubby and im proud
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-07-14 22:53:03 UTC
Did someone lose a Raven today?
D3F4ULT
#3 - 2012-07-14 22:54:22 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
Did someone lose a Raven today?


Funny, my corp mate did even after him seeing local, being told in comms, and intel of fleet.

Nerf logic.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2012-07-14 23:03:14 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong
Yes: the pilot of said Raven is awful.

That is a problem with him, not with the game or its balance.

Welcome to EVE. Bigger is not better around here.
Every other game is utterly and completely irrelevant because they are not EVE.

Also, 0/10.
Pipa Porto
#5 - 2012-07-14 23:04:40 UTC
I understand what the first "P" stands for.
I understand what the "v" stands for.
I even understand what the second "P" stands for.

What's the "c" stand for?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2012-07-14 23:06:08 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
solo pvp is overpowerd

did you know tat one guy in a kestrel can kill someone in a battleship because apparantly they can. a battleship in the real world has lots of point defenses and stuff that let it protect itself from the small ships but in eve my battlesjip has no defense against anythng smaller than a battleship!

if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong wth the game because in every other game you cant be killed by people who are a lowr level than you. kestrel is a frigate and frigates are low level ships for new players so why can a kestrel beat a raven I ask you?

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.


4/10 rather obvious but you got some big name bites so keep on keeping on

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#7 - 2012-07-14 23:06:36 UTC
You sank my fail fit battleship

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-07-14 23:07:06 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
I understand what the first "P" stands for.
I understand what the "v" stands for.
I even understand what the second "P" stands for.

What's the "c" stand for?
(crappy) — a post-modifier to the first P.

…if I were to guess.
Pipa Porto
#9 - 2012-07-14 23:07:34 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
solo pvp is overpowerd

did you know tat one guy in a kestrel can kill someone in a battleship because apparantly they can. a battleship in the real world has lots of point defenses and stuff that let it protect itself from the small ships but in eve my battlesjip has no defense against anythng smaller than a battleship!

if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong wth the game because in every other game you cant be killed by people who are a lowr level than you. kestrel is a frigate and frigates are low level ships for new players so why can a kestrel beat a raven I ask you?

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.


You have drones, you could have Webs, you could fit small or medium ACs in your spare HSlots (or neuts), you could have TPs, or you could downsize your weapons.

The fact that newbies can kill Vets is one of the best things about the game.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-07-14 23:08:06 UTC
Meh, not even a half good troll. Disappointing.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2012-07-14 23:10:09 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Meh, not even a half good troll. Disappointing.
Nah. The disappointing bit is that some people actually think like this… Cry
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#12 - 2012-07-14 23:13:39 UTC
I wonder how the Kestrel managed to get through the ravens tank.

Also, what does this have to do with solo? OPs problem relates purely to ship sizes...

Otherwise yes - BS could use a little love, with all the new ship classes and everything around them getting buffed, they tend to get the **** end of the stick way too often...
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-07-14 23:14:55 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
I wonder how the Kestrel managed to get through the ravens tank.

Also, what does this have to do with solo? OPs problem relates purely to ship sizes...

Otherwise yes - BS could use a little love, with all the new ship classes and everything around them getting buffed, they tend to get the **** end of the stick way too often...


Buff the vindicator!
YuuKnow
The Scope
#14 - 2012-07-14 23:18:10 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Torvin Yulus wrote:
solo pvp is overpowerd

did you know tat one guy in a kestrel can kill someone in a battleship because apparantly they can. a battleship in the real world has lots of point defenses and stuff that let it protect itself from the small ships but in eve my battlesjip has no defense against anythng smaller than a battleship!

if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong wth the game because in every other game you cant be killed by people who are a lowr level than you. kestrel is a frigate and frigates are low level ships for new players so why can a kestrel beat a raven I ask you?

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.


In Eve, point defense = fittings. 2 x webs, TP, ECM drones, Neuts, in various combinations, if you need to protect yourself from frigs. You can't have it all.

I do, however, wish that webs had the same optimal and falloff mechanics as turrets to make things more interesting. The 'all or nothing' for current webs mechanics is too predictable. Better would be more uncertainty.

yk
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#15 - 2012-07-14 23:26:52 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
a battleship in the real world has lots of point defenses and stuff that let it protect itself from the small ships but in eve my battlesjip has no defense against anythng smaller than a battleship!

Fit small guns/light missiles then, nothing's stopping you

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Equus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-07-14 23:31:02 UTC
0/10
Price Check Aisle3
#17 - 2012-07-14 23:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Price Check Aisle3
Tippia wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong
Yes: the pilot of said Raven is awful.

That is a problem with him, not with the game or its balance.

Welcome to EVE. Bigger is not better around here.
Every other game is utterly and completely irrelevant because they are not EVE.

Also, 0/10.

I like how you actually explain to this guy how things work before rating him. tbh, he deserved nothing more than "0/10".

E: See Equus' post.
  • Karl Hobb IATS
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#18 - 2012-07-14 23:37:24 UTC
No ship larger than a destroyer that has utility highs should ever lose a fight to a kestrel. There are these things called neuts that render any ship smaller than a frigate totally useless pretty much instantly.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2012-07-14 23:39:00 UTC
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
I like how you actually explain to this guy how things work before rating him. tbh, he deserved nothing more than "0/10".
It's more a case of a catch-all answer.

My overall attitude is for every actual troll, there will be 10 people who genuinely believe the same thing, so you might as well respond to the trolls seriously and get the message across to the numpties in the process.
Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-07-14 23:40:19 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
solo pvp is overpowerd

did you know tat one guy in a kestrel can kill someone in a battleship because apparantly they can. a battleship in the real world has lots of point defenses and stuff that let it protect itself from the small ships but in eve my battlesjip has no defense against anythng smaller than a battleship!

if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong wth the game because in every other game you cant be killed by people who are a lowr level than you. kestrel is a frigate and frigates are low level ships for new players so why can a kestrel beat a raven I ask you?

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.


Isn't it somewhat a good thing that "pvp" isn't just about who has the most expensive ship?
123Next page