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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#21 - 2012-07-29 14:21:02 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:

all labs (used in research related jobs) use far more CPU then power. So if you are planning on having many labs you will want a tower (caldari) that has a higher CPU amount.

If I remember correctly a caldari can fit roughly 10 labs and have around 20% resources left over for guns/hardeners/whatever. I'm pulling this off the top of my head but was researching it a few weeks back.

Also you are better off going with a large tower. Small towers will consume less fuel blocks but they are a prime target for wardec's.


In general, it's a moot point, because a hi-sec tower should run maxed-out labs/arrays and not worry about defense stuff being online. You can rely on CONCORD to protect your tower until you get wardec'd.

Anchor the defensive modules ahead of time? Definitely.
Online them? No. (Maybe a few proj/hyb/laser batteries if you have PG to spare.)

When you get wardec'd, having the defensive modules already anchored means you just have to go out to the tower, evac your labs/arrays, then start putting defensive batteries online. You've got a 24h warm-up period. Use it. You can even anchor spares over and above what you could possibly put online at the same time. So as your guns get destroyed, you can put the spares online.

Caldari are best for pure research, since they have the most CPU
Amarr / Minmatar make nice deathstar setups, but have less CPU
Gallente, aren't that great unless you live in Gallente or are doing reactions
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#22 - 2012-07-30 09:10:27 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
A small tower will not get you war decced. It really depends on how visible you are. A 2 man corp in an out of the way system with a small tower will never be noticed. Perhaps if griefers are looking for targets on the forum, or if the guy talks smack in local, yes. But in general, no one will even notice their existance.

Plus the cost and time to gank such a tower isn't worth the limited payout.
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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#23 - 2012-07-30 13:56:36 UTC
Caldari: Best D*ckstars, best POS for pure research
Gallente: Best moon harvesters/reactors with their 100% bonus to silo capacity and ample CPU
Minmatar: Best defended POS. Currently autocannons/artilerry is the best POS weaponry, this can fit plenty of it and gives bonuses. Has enough CPU to fit a few non-combat modules.
Amarr: Poor man's Minmatar. Decent for moon mining valuable materials that might be coveted by others. At the time of this writing, Amarr fuel is cheaper than Minmatar fuel.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#24 - 2012-08-13 11:41:45 UTC
Just out of interest, when do corp standings update?
Unholy Son
Unholy Industries Ltd
CAStabouts
#25 - 2012-08-13 12:51:53 UTC
If Im correct its 7 days after the average changes.
Echo Mande
#26 - 2012-08-13 13:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Echo Mande
Paikis wrote:
Hi folks,


I'm looking at setting up a high sec POS for some general industry. I'm not 100% sure what I'm going to be doing with it long term , but I am going to be researching and copying BPOs, probably trying my hand at T2 invention and I know I want to do some ship production (I can do this at an NPC station if needed).

What I would like to know, is which control tower (don't include faction towers) would work best for this? I also intend to use my army of alts to make the fuel too... once I figure out this PI thing.

Any help would be great.


If you're only going to be doing ME/PE work, having an alt join an alliance like New Eden Research might actually be a better idea than keeping a tower.

If you're not sure what you're going to do with the tower and/or are only going to have 1-2 toons using it, a small caldari tower is probably your best bet. You should be able to fit a couple of labs and a component array (to store stuff and make fuel blocks). For casual invention this should do fine, especially since you'll get the manufacturing time boost from the component array. You may occasionally have to juggle the onlined arrays to do manufacturing at the POS.

If you're a bit more serious about inventing you can get a medium caldari tower. That tower is big enough to mount 2 labs, 2 advanced labs, a component array and 8-10 other manufacturing arrays (ammo, module, drones, components) at once. Stacking 4 toons' inventions in the normal labs should allow you to only change invention jobs every 4-5 hours while the manufacturing arrays should allow you to build one set of T2 BPCs while preparing for the next set (building T2 components, T1 modules and RAM). A medium tower should keep 4-6 toons busy

A large POS, even though it has space for lots of labs and manufacturing arrays, is something I'd only really recommend if you have at least half a dozen toons to keep the arrays and labs fed. At that point you will probably be spending quite a bit of time planning out copy runs, inventing and manufacturing to keep the arrays fed and ISK flowing. Set up right a large POS allows you to copy capital BPCs and regular BPCs (20 jobs at a time), do inventing (20-30 jobs at a time) and manufacturing (T2 as well as T2 preparation, 50-60 jobs at a time) all at the same time.

The one thing I would not currently build at a POS is T2 ships because the manufacturing arrays involved have a materials penalty.

HTH

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#27 - 2012-08-14 04:10:29 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Just out of interest, when do corp standings update?
Unholy Sun wrote:
If Im correct its 7 days after the average changes.

Corp standings update daily at downtime.

Only members that have been in the corp 7 days or longer are considered. Only members with non-null standing affect the average. To have null standing, the member must never have had any standing towards the faction.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#28 - 2012-08-15 01:51:47 UTC
You can hire ppl for standings upgrades. They will have very high standings that affect your overall average.
Sometimes you might also have to kick members with very bad standings. Just until the tower is anchored, then they can rejoin.

Fuel costs, last time I had a tower, were basicly, 75 mil a month for smalls, double that for mediums, double that again for large towers. (300ish a month) This was before fuel blocks....dunno how prices are now, but I suspect a little more. Back then Isotopes were climbing thru the roof.
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