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FLORENCE The late summer release is on Sisi -Changes list

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Eva Entari
Fox Box Holdings
#61 - 2012-07-14 20:36:59 UTC
Biggest change is clearly the buffed t2 plates. I feel my whole world crumbling around me.
Julia Niac
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-07-15 02:37:02 UTC
Salpun wrote:


New NPE is in



trolol .. what version NPE are we on now? I get it .. hell its kind of awesome .. but i think we are on overhaul 7 .. maybe 8 now. Its funny, in an ironic way.
Taurich Vorsel
#63 - 2012-07-15 05:49:50 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Quote:
"Akemon's Modified 'Noble' ZET5000"
"Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1008"


Ugh Is it really necessary to remove the unique names from rare items?

oh noooooo

Please don't do this dev's
The Pashan's and Akemon's are like the monocles of the implant world

Don't desexify my jump clone page

Add them to market by all means, and if I were to make another suggestion it would be to regroup all implants as meta level
HG-1001 lowest meta, up through HG-1006, then Akemon's/Pashan's as a storyline meta

You could do the same with attribute implants, with pirate sets as the t2 variant.

This would make it much easier to find all implants.

Copine Callmeknau disappeared one day now we are left with Taurich Vorsel AKA BIZARRO COPE!
Jim Luc
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-07-15 08:42:15 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Team Super Friends (your best friends) made some changes to saved fittings

Saved fittings now fit rigs (if there aren't any rigs on the ships)
- you get a question asking if you like to fit rigs or not like alays

Saved fittings with items you don't have skills to fit now fit everything except the items you don't have skills to fit (instead of not fitting anything)

Saved fittings now save ammo in cargo and fit that in cargo when fitting that saved fitting

I'm pretty sure it's all there but I'm on vacation so I bet Paradox or Tuxford can verify it for me Smile



Hi Punkturis, I know this isn't a request thread but thought I'd see if this was something easily accomplished. Is it possible to make a "shopping list" in the UI, where we can quickly find all of the items in a ship's fitting on the market based on Station, System, Region? Also it would be great to have a "restock" option, to quickly purchase groups of items at the current market price if they currently exist in your station. If not then it will list the closest and an ability to right-click -> view in market option.
Danfen Fenix
#65 - 2012-07-15 10:49:28 UTC
Jim Luc wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Team Super Friends (your best friends) made some changes to saved fittings

Saved fittings now fit rigs (if there aren't any rigs on the ships)
- you get a question asking if you like to fit rigs or not like alays

Saved fittings with items you don't have skills to fit now fit everything except the items you don't have skills to fit (instead of not fitting anything)

Saved fittings now save ammo in cargo and fit that in cargo when fitting that saved fitting

I'm pretty sure it's all there but I'm on vacation so I bet Paradox or Tuxford can verify it for me Smile



Hi Punkturis, I know this isn't a request thread but thought I'd see if this was something easily accomplished. Is it possible to make a "shopping list" in the UI, where we can quickly find all of the items in a ship's fitting on the market based on Station, System, Region? Also it would be great to have a "restock" option, to quickly purchase groups of items at the current market price if they currently exist in your station. If not then it will list the closest and an ability to right-click -> view in market option.



This would be great Big smile Restock option, with easy selection of an 'amount' of the fit to restock (and obviously, total price shown before purchase...). Would buy all modules/ship in the fit up to the amount chosen.

Shouldnt be too hard to do I dont think PBlink
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#66 - 2012-07-15 10:56:34 UTC
They are heading in that direction but I think they are like 3 or 4 coding changes awaySad
They talked about the other way being more important fully fit ships on the market including maybe a recolor/ reskins so ships manufactured by individual people can be used as brand marketing.

We will most likely not see shoping list type features untill the V3 project is complete.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2012-07-15 11:12:47 UTC
Jim Luc wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Team Super Friends (your best friends) made some changes to saved fittings

Saved fittings now fit rigs (if there aren't any rigs on the ships)
- you get a question asking if you like to fit rigs or not like alays

Saved fittings with items you don't have skills to fit now fit everything except the items you don't have skills to fit (instead of not fitting anything)

Saved fittings now save ammo in cargo and fit that in cargo when fitting that saved fitting

I'm pretty sure it's all there but I'm on vacation so I bet Paradox or Tuxford can verify it for me Smile



Hi Punkturis, I know this isn't a request thread but thought I'd see if this was something easily accomplished. Is it possible to make a "shopping list" in the UI, where we can quickly find all of the items in a ship's fitting on the market based on Station, System, Region? Also it would be great to have a "restock" option, to quickly purchase groups of items at the current market price if they currently exist in your station. If not then it will list the closest and an ability to right-click -> view in market option.



that's already in. you drag the fitting to the market quickbar.

Speaking of which can we get less of this hidden features crap? Punkturis, your awesome ally system left click menu UI, if that was in the fitting window to bring up all parts in the market, it wouldn't feel as hidden.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#68 - 2012-07-15 11:15:42 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
Jim Luc wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Team Super Friends (your best friends) made some changes to saved fittings

Saved fittings now fit rigs (if there aren't any rigs on the ships)
- you get a question asking if you like to fit rigs or not like alays

Saved fittings with items you don't have skills to fit now fit everything except the items you don't have skills to fit (instead of not fitting anything)

Saved fittings now save ammo in cargo and fit that in cargo when fitting that saved fitting

I'm pretty sure it's all there but I'm on vacation so I bet Paradox or Tuxford can verify it for me Smile



Hi Punkturis, I know this isn't a request thread but thought I'd see if this was something easily accomplished. Is it possible to make a "shopping list" in the UI, where we can quickly find all of the items in a ship's fitting on the market based on Station, System, Region? Also it would be great to have a "restock" option, to quickly purchase groups of items at the current market price if they currently exist in your station. If not then it will list the closest and an ability to right-click -> view in market option.



that's already in. you drag the fitting to the market quickbar.

Speaking of which can we get less of this hidden features crap? Punkturis, your awesome ally system left click menu UI, if that was in the fitting window to bring up all parts in the market, it wouldn't feel as hidden.


Shoping lists which can be seen by more then one person and can be purchased all at once instead of going line by line is the final goal and they are not there yet.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Jim Luc
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-07-15 18:37:55 UTC
Salpun wrote:
They are heading in that direction but I think they are like 3 or 4 coding changes awaySad
They talked about the other way being more important fully fit ships on the market including maybe a recolor/ reskins so ships manufactured by individual people can be used as brand marketing.

We will most likely not see shoping list type features untill the V3 project is complete.


Being able to sell fully fit ships would really be great. Especially if you can put your own paintjob on ships to make them unique, it would really allow industrialists a way to market as well.

It would also be cool to have a unique container that can fit fully-fit and assembled ships so they can be transported around for sale, that you can put multiple assembled ships into, but reduces the assembled ship's m3 by something like 30% - 40%. This way we start shipping fully assembled ships rather than the parts separately. Perhaps this is already in the game?

Some might say that this "dumbs EVE down" but in reality it allows some people to just jump into a ship and start flying, and quickly replace that ship. Those that have the extra time to spend can make a profit by assembling multiple loadouts and can selling them in a location where they are in demand.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#70 - 2012-07-15 21:49:07 UTC
M'nu wrote:
Here is my feedback.

The market window+browse is so ******* boss.

I'm serious.

Except for when I search for an item, and I am not specific in my search and get the cool dropdown menus. I do not get the 'groups' functionality.

So if I search for 'nosf' and select the Ship Equipment tab on the left side, I don't get that chosen selection on the right side.

Glad you like it Smile

The groups you get when searching should not have group functionality, because they are not like the groups that populate the group page. They are just the top groups, and when you click them when browsing, the stuff is not loaded in the group page (otherwise you would get hundreds/thousands of items in the group page when clicking thouse groups).

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#71 - 2012-07-15 22:03:44 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Jim Luc wrote:

Hi Punkturis, I know this isn't a request thread but thought I'd see if this was something easily accomplished. Is it possible to make a "shopping list" in the UI, where we can quickly find all of the items in a ship's fitting on the market based on Station, System, Region? Also it would be great to have a "restock" option, to quickly purchase groups of items at the current market price if they currently exist in your station. If not then it will list the closest and an ability to right-click -> view in market option.

Did you know that you can drag fittings to the quickbar tab in the market window, and have everything fitted added in a folder to the quickbar? If you didn't maybe you can check that out and see if that helps.
Edit: oops, someone beat me to it P

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#72 - 2012-07-15 22:06:06 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
M'nu wrote:
Here is my feedback.

The market window+browse is so ******* boss.

I'm serious.

Except for when I search for an item, and I am not specific in my search and get the cool dropdown menus. I do not get the 'groups' functionality.

So if I search for 'nosf' and select the Ship Equipment tab on the left side, I don't get that chosen selection on the right side.

Glad you like it Smile

The groups you get when searching should not have group functionality, because they are not like the groups that populate the group page. They are just the top groups, and when you click them when browsing, the stuff is not loaded in the group page (otherwise you would get hundreds/thousands of items in the group page when clicking thouse groups).

Prices are still broke ont the group page when you access them from the top of a searched item. Once that is fixed people will see the ease of use.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#73 - 2012-07-15 22:15:24 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Prices are still broke ont the group page when you access them from the top of a searched item. Once that is fixed people will see the ease of use.

Could you please clarify that? I don't understand what you mean.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#74 - 2012-07-15 22:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
CCP karkur wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Prices are still broke ont the group page when you access them from the top of a searched item. Once that is fixed people will see the ease of use.

Could you please clarify that? I don't understand what you mean.

If the show only available option is clicked the system works the same but if it is not clicked the group tab does not show prices and where it is. bug report #140880

Group page prices and locations are still buggy do not show current station but show the station 5 jumps away even if the price is the same. Easy to test on SisiBig smile BR#141001

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#75 - 2012-07-15 22:23:40 UTC
Nevigrofnu Mrots wrote:
- the tooltip could be a little smaller in height?
- the tooltip could have the delay configurable to our wishes?
- the tooltip could be turn off?

- The market search results, could it show them with the folders expanded when we are just facing like 10-20 results max?
- Can the market search field help me write the remaining of the product name I'm looking for by presenting a combo with name options, like google?


Bug: tooltips for electronic warfare modules are showing the variables and not the values...


Tooltips and search are awesome, hi5 to the team that implemented that
Big smile

First off, hi5! Smile

The tooltips do have the same delay as the hints... I doubt that we will change it for release, but we can look into that.
I will be making small changes to the tooltips before release, and that might include reducing their height a little bit.

The market search will remember the state of the folder/group... so if you open "ship equipment" in one search, and then search for something else, when the results load, "ship equipment" will be expanded (same goes for the faction, storyline, officer and deadspace groups),

Could you please file a bugreport (with pictures) on the tooltip bug? That would help alot Smile (and then post the bugreport ID either here or send it to me)

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#76 - 2012-07-15 22:44:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Ballistic damage control do not show damage increase.
Microwarp does not show speed bonus new top speed would be better.Twisted
Can we have those tool tips on the fitting screen alsoTwisted With all the stats not just the range and damage.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2012-07-15 23:24:52 UTC
can you please allow me to make the list in the market broader ? there is a maximum on the width, not very cool (see bugreport 141002)

arent you on vacation btw ? stop working !
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2012-07-16 03:55:30 UTC
Why doesn't it look like the shiny UI in the trailer?

I mean its a boring box :/

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#79 - 2012-07-16 05:07:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
MotherMoon wrote:
Why doesn't it look like the shiny UI in the trailer?

I mean its a boring box :/

Once all the info is linkable/ ie showable, in a way that does not kill the server its just an art department issue I think.

Lets get all the data showing correctly and then talk about all the shiny bits.
One step at a time.
CCP is big about not redoing work if they do not have to P. When they get the rest of the back end tech fixed then we will get the shiny interface.

Options like turning it off and how to show it need to be programed first. however its a step in the right direction.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Asha Xa'clan
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2012-07-16 07:42:35 UTC
The rig and cargo fitting is great, it'll make fitting my ships faster and I'm less likely to forget something important if I'm in a hurry. Does this also work for drones in the drone bay? If not, that would be a great addition.

Another idea would be to also save the weapon groupings and module shortcut positiions together with the fitting, so that you don't have to group your weapons again and move all modules to your preferred key. I don't know if that is actually connected with the fitting code, but if that would be possible it would be really useful.