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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#81 - 2012-07-13 00:27:14 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
I presume when he says he will be ganking mission runners he means Industrials doing distribution missions. Less chance they will shoot back.

Or those who do mining missions. That's 2 birds with one catalyst.
Suqq Madiq
#82 - 2012-07-13 00:35:55 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Terrible corps are the best corps to be in. It only gets worse the further you branch out.


I think I found your problem.

Mallak Azaria wrote:
400 point lossmail that my CEO cried about.
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-07-13 03:30:34 UTC
Gun Gal wrote:
Good luck with that,

You'll need more ships, more expensive fits and you'll most likely die as well.

Await, you'll target noob level 1 missions, eh?

God, you are such loosers

^^^ This. I run Incursion quality tanks on my Mach and Snake, and I have a Navy Domi repper. Maybe you shoudl try to take out the Domi before Concord gets you ...
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#84 - 2012-07-13 03:45:23 UTC
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Gun Gal wrote:
Good luck with that,

You'll need more ships, more expensive fits and you'll most likely die as well.

Await, you'll target noob level 1 missions, eh?

God, you are such loosers

^^^ This. I run Incursion quality tanks on my Mach and Snake, and I have a Navy Domi repper. Maybe you shoudl try to take out the Domi before Concord gets you ...


We'll just have to bring more nado's then.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2012-07-13 04:16:29 UTC
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Gun Gal wrote:
Good luck with that,

You'll need more ships, more expensive fits and you'll most likely die as well.

Await, you'll target noob level 1 missions, eh?

God, you are such loosers

^^^ This. I run Incursion quality tanks on my Mach and Snake, and I have a Navy Domi repper. Maybe you shoudl try to take out the Domi before Concord gets you ...

okay, we'll shoot some triggers

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#86 - 2012-07-13 04:30:13 UTC
I ran missions one week with a PvP fit Dominix. Several times these so called harmless frigates warped in. I waited for them to steal, but alas they would always warp out after they did a ship scan of my Dominix and saw the fit. Even the ones where they had multiple people ready with neutral remote repairs would never steal from me.

I guess going up against one ship that is PvP fit with your ship and a dozen others to back you up is still too dangerous. Ugh
William Nimitz
Doomheim
#87 - 2012-07-13 05:10:46 UTC
Bored griefers do the darndest things.

It is a symptom of madness that thoughts become uncontrollably disjointed. This can be encouraged.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#88 - 2012-07-13 05:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Mallak Azaria wrote:
We will now be ganking mission runners as they are the real blight in highsec. You have been warned.


I am in need of Level 4 COSMOS Commodity Mission items that are granted only during missions. If you are to obtain the items I need by ganking missioners, I am willing to pay up to 20M-30M for individual bundle of commodities specific to individual COSMOS missions.
pussnheels
Viziam
#89 - 2012-07-13 06:44:40 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
I see this thread as confirmation that many miners starting to fly smart and tanking their hulks now , well atleast all that commotion a few months earlier did something positive

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
William Nimitz
Doomheim
#90 - 2012-07-13 07:11:05 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
I see this thread as confirmation that many miners starting to fly smart and tanking their hulks now , well atleast all that commotion a few months earlier did something positive
Yes next up seems we'll be getting rid of pve oriented fits in favor of pve/pvp hybrid fits. It will be interesting to see how this affects users of ships that use their midslots for tanking.

It is a symptom of madness that thoughts become uncontrollably disjointed. This can be encouraged.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#91 - 2012-07-14 04:31:11 UTC
Ok, I want to show everyone how this works.

What I said (corrected for spelling): Point 1

Shizuken wrote:


When confronted with the facts of their own pathology sociopaths will reject the idea in whole...


And here is the response:

Mag's wrote:
So because you cannot differentiate RL with a game, that is somehow our problem?


And then: Point 2

Shizuken wrote:
...and then project all of their assholery on the one confronting them.


To which he responded:

Mag's wrote:
The only one here with an issue, is someone who can compare RL murder, with in-game activities and think that perfectly valid.


All of this serves only so that he feels no guilt in disrespecting other people's effort, or the way they play the game. And he chooses to stomp all over that for his own pleasure. Whether it is taking advantage of can flipping mechanics in a game, or stomping on someone's sand castle on the beach, it is antisocial. Just because the beach is an open place and no one owns the sand, does not mean that it is nice, or well mannered, to trash someones effort for your own entertainment.

The comparison is valid. I acknowledge that disrupting gameplay is far different in degree than murder in real life. No one gets arrested for being an ******* in a game, but they are both antisocial acts.

By all means, it is a game, and you can do whatever suits you in it. But just because the game allows it does not absolve you of bad behavior, or being called out for it. That kind of activity is still destructive to those that don't appreciate it.

And you know what, I will take the moral high ground. Because you, and others like you, have no respect for other people's time or effort, and I do.
Jonni Favorite
Militant Industrialists LLC
Militant Consortium
#92 - 2012-07-14 04:40:24 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
OP thinks somebody cares. What a noob.


I'm glad you care enough to post. Thank you my friend.


Thinking OP is a **** is not "caring". It's "anti-caring".


That's almost like a triple dare, now you've done it! You've pissed OP really something awful! The universe trembles..
Alara IonStorm
#93 - 2012-07-14 04:42:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Shizuken wrote:

All of this serves only so that he feels no guilt in disrespecting other people's effort, or the way they play the game. And he chooses to stomp all over that for his own pleasure. Whether it is taking advantage of can flipping mechanics in a game, or stomping on someone's sand castle on the beach, it is antisocial. Just because the beach is an open place and no one owns the sand, does not mean that it is nice, or well mannered, to trash someones effort for your own entertainment.

The comparison is valid. I acknowledge that disrupting gameplay is far different in degree than murder in real life. No one gets arrested for being an ******* in a game, but they are both antisocial acts.

By all means, it is a game, and you can do whatever suits you in it. But just because the game allows it does not absolve you of bad behavior, or being called out for it. That kind of activity is still destructive to those that don't appreciate it.

And you know what, I will take the moral high ground. Because you, and others like you, have no respect for other people's time or effort, and I do.

LOL.

Conflict is a profession in this game. I don't gank folks but I have never been ganked. You can avoid or curtail almost any attack or minimize the results to your overall profits and assets with ease. The people who don't do it lose the game and the ones who do win.

Gankers are the bad guys in this game and if you can not beat them with a majority of the mechanics on your side it is time to move to a game where NPC's are the only enemy. There is no moral high ground in EVE just high ground and either you are on it or your not.
William Nimitz
Doomheim
#94 - 2012-07-14 04:44:36 UTC
Jonni Favorite wrote:
...now you've done it! You've pissed OP really something awful! The universe trembles..
The universe often trembles when it's bowels are full to the brim with bull****.

It is a symptom of madness that thoughts become uncontrollably disjointed. This can be encouraged.
Rain King
Playing Alone Sucks
#95 - 2012-07-14 05:15:03 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
We will now be ganking mission runners as they are the real blight in highsec. You have been warned.


Thanks for the warning, windowlicker. Of course, that won't be for the easily discouraged among you. I mean, since mission runners have tanks and all.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#96 - 2012-07-14 07:45:35 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Ok, I want to show everyone how this works.

What I said (corrected for spelling): Point 1

Only one problem. They were not facts, but merely your thoughts and conjecture. Blink

Shizuken wrote:
And then: Point 2
I'm pointing out the flaw, in your thoughts and conjecture. Blink

Shizuken wrote:
All of this serves only so that he feels no guilt in disrespecting other people's effort, or the way they play the game. And he chooses to stomp all over that for his own pleasure. Whether it is taking advantage of can flipping mechanics in a game, or stomping on someone's sand castle on the beach, it is antisocial. Just because the beach is an open place and no one owns the sand, does not mean that it is nice, or well mannered, to trash someones effort for your own entertainment.

The comparison is valid. I acknowledge that disrupting gameplay is far different in degree than murder in real life. No one gets arrested for being an ******* in a game, but they are both antisocial acts.

By all means, it is a game, and you can do whatever suits you in it. But just because the game allows it does not absolve you of bad behavior, or being called out for it. That kind of activity is still destructive to those that don't appreciate it.

And you know what, I will take the moral high ground. Because you, and others like you, have no respect for other people's time or effort, and I do.
Oh I have respect for many things, but I have zero respect for those who cannot differentiate between RL and game play. None.

The game was designed from the start, as a pure PvP game. Almost EVERY aspect of Eve is PvP. So when one plays it that way and others cry foul, it is rather pointless posturing on their part.

Your comparison trivializes murder, which I cannot see heartening those who have lost loved ones through said act. But as you have the moral high ground, such things are beneath you. Amirite?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#97 - 2012-07-14 08:28:05 UTC
Yet another egotistical and pointless thread by a big bad scary muppet. Sad What ever shall we do.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#98 - 2012-07-14 09:15:32 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
And you justify this behavior with the "its just a game so its not real." This is no different in logic than a thug killing someone walking down the street and saying "stupid mofo shouldnt huv left his crib." "If he didnt I wouldnt have had to kill him."
If you can't see the difference between playing a game in accordance with its rules, and murder, then you should probably have a talk with your psychiatrist to increase the dosage of whatever it is you're not taking.

The difference in logic is this: EVE is a game — not reality — where blowing other people up is a hugely important part of the gameplay that leave no consequences at all outside of the game (and within the game, those consequences are by design, much like how losing a rook in chess is by design), whereas walking down “the wrong street” and getting shivved for your trouble is real life and carries ever-lasting consequences for everyone involved.

So the only question at this point is: do you think murder is a game, or do you get vertigo from playing chutes and ladders?
Aaewen Hrothgarson
eXtreme Co
SLYCE Pirates
#99 - 2012-07-14 09:15:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaewen Hrothgarson
Quite an amusing thread.

High sec gankers dilemma:

Mining missions:
* Pros: "Phat lewz". Unless he uses a retriever or covetor and plain equipment ... hm
* Cons: Have to learn to fit an expanded probe launcher on my gank ship and how to use it ... hm

Security missions:
* As above. Plus, might not be allowed to bring my tornado into that level 1 deadspace. How unfair!
* Additional con: Shoots back and HURTS! Oh noes! Might have to tank my gank myself to get a second salvo off.
* Alternative con: If I take to long to probe the mission site, I might run into a retriever or covetor, see above.

Distribution mission:
*Pro: No need to probe them! YAY!!
*Con: Might be tanked and armed! Also, worthless loot!!!
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2012-07-14 09:16:36 UTC
Ganking miners has always been boring. I like people who shoot back.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.