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Mining Skill Planner + Exhumers V question..
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Kandee Kane
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-11 21:31:30 UTC
Hi all,

I've been predominately mining in high-sec and here is my current skill sheet:

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Kandee_Kane

I'm looking to get an idea of where to go from here to:

a) Maximize mining yield
b) Get the best high-sec Hulk loadout (currently 3x T2 MSM's with 2x MLU2's
c) Devise a strategy to get to low/null sec mining eventually
d) Maximize refining (low priority)

Also as an aside, can someone explain the benefit of having Exhumers V? The tooltip doesn't really tell me anything.

Cheers,
Hiroshi Yakasuki
Yakasuki Enterprises
#2 - 2012-07-11 21:57:44 UTC
Exhumers 5 provides more mining yield per minute in your exhumer class ships. (Hulk, Mack, Skiff) Worth it? may as well.

Your skills look good so far. I'd go for Drone Interfacing 4-5 and t2 mining drones (mining drone operation 5) next. then top off your exhumer skill to 5. Also concider t2 drone rigs.
If you're mining in a group, the extra mining yield from the drones with rigs is nice.

Your refining looks good, just need some standing with some corp or another to reduce that tax. (6.4 standing with a corp if i recall correctly)

Before you move to low/null, get some tanking skills. Think Shield buffer. Also get some friends and get in a corp.
Kandee Kane
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-07-11 22:02:58 UTC
Thanks for the help.

Question on drone rigs - I know nothing about them. What skills are used for those, and how does it work?
Hiroshi Yakasuki
Yakasuki Enterprises
#4 - 2012-07-11 22:09:47 UTC
Drones Rigging is the skill i think. They reduce CPU output but increase drone mining yield. So depending on your fit you may need to train it to 3 or 4 just to get it all to fit depending on your electronics skill.
Rigs are like ship modules, but you cant remove them without destroying them.

T1 Mining drones with max skills and no rigs can potentially pull in 188 m3 per minute (assuming no travel time)
T2 Drones : 312m3
T2 Drones with t2 rigs: 406m3
Kandee Kane
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-07-11 22:11:37 UTC
Wow, that would definitely help with yields.

Thanks for the help! xo
Hiroshi Yakasuki
Yakasuki Enterprises
#6 - 2012-07-11 22:12:24 UTC
No problem. As for the exhumer thing again:
Quote:

Exhumers Skill Bonus:
3% better yield for Strip Miners per level
3% reduction in Ice Harvester duration per level
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
#7 - 2012-07-11 22:55:03 UTC
Fair to note also, while you list "improve refining" as low priority, getting each ore processing skill to 4 is required to unlock the various T2 mining crystals.
Kosetzu
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#8 - 2012-07-12 00:22:31 UTC
To be fair, in highsec you also need to think about the gankers who wants tears from your losses. Might want to build around a tanky Hulk if you don't think you can avoid them.

Depends on if you want the extra 200-400 m3/min or to be a lot tougher target with nearly 31k buffer. I'd go for the second as loosing a Hulk costs you quite a bit. They got for what, 350M now? That's a lot of mining to pay for one ship loss...
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2012-07-12 05:56:19 UTC
Even miners should be able to competently use at least a battlecruiser.

War happens. It is a fact of life in EVE.

Plus combat skills help in being able to do missions to raise standing to eliminate refining tax.
Cardith
Freelancers' Righteous Escalade
#10 - 2012-07-12 11:57:22 UTC
u should consider

mining upgrades V! before everyone flames this skill is necessary for running 2 t2 mining upgrades and drone mining rigs (if u have implants)
cybernetics V (mining implants)
orca (if u use can mining)

fly safe
Dave stark
#11 - 2012-07-17 12:59:33 UTC
Kandee Kane wrote:


a) Maximize mining yield
b) Get the best high-sec Hulk loadout (currently 3x T2 MSM's with 2x MLU2's
c) Devise a strategy to get to low/null sec mining eventually
d) Maximize refining (low priority)

Also as an aside, can someone explain the benefit of having Exhumers V? The tooltip doesn't really tell me anything.

Cheers,


maxing your mining yield to perfect would basically be exhumers V, astrogeology V, mining drone operation V, drone interfacing V, and ore processing IV for the ores that you regularly mine. also drone rigs if you're going to be using drones (if you aren't you can fit tank or cargo rigs and skip the drone skills.

your best high sec loadout is t2 strips with t2 crystals, 2x mlu2 and then whatever you want in the mid slots. invulns are a good choice.

don't waste your time with low sec. if you want to mine in null just find a nullsec corp that bothers with industry.
training for null sec mining crystals will give you sufficient refining skills. if you get all t2 crystals and the 2% refining implant you'll have lossless refining on all ores in a 40% or higher refining station.

exhumers V is basically only worth the training time if you want perfect skills or intend on mining mercoxit.
Elsbeth Taron
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-07-17 17:33:42 UTC
Exhumers 5 is necessary if you wish to use the speciality ships: mackinaw and skiff. Although you can fly them at a lower skill, a hulk will outperform them in their respective roles if you don't train exhumers to at least 4. It makes no sense spending the extra isk on buying those ships without training to 5.