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CCP please reduce GANKING!

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eddie valvetino
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#161 - 2012-07-17 13:00:26 UTC  |  Edited by: eddie valvetino
awesome

yet another whining ***** that wants ccp to cahnge the game to suit his needs rather than simply leaning how to over come to the game as it is.

You want to mine in hec, afk? tough **** buddy... ccp has NEVER wanted afk mining, it's every bit as bad as botting. One of the basic game play princibles of eve, is that making cash comes with risk, why should you be any different?

You want to not get killed by ganking dessies, stay at you PC, you are at risk, play like it, tank your ship... Nearly EVERY dead T2 barge i have seen, has had no tank at all, these ships can be fit to tank MASSIVE alpha and dps, they have good mids slot lay outs, and T2 Resists. I've seen 10 barges on a belt beforte, gankers don't just appear from nowhere, if you have 5 guys, that is 5 scouts too (we all have alts don't we?) sit them on your gates, watch for gankers and warp out, we kill you cos you're easy and stupid, if you weren't we wouldn't and couldn't. Barges have had a buff, but still you all go for max yeild set ups. You have the tools already, but your greedy and laziness is reaching epic levels. You are victims of your own fool hardy out look.

Hi sec ganking is not an "issue" as you put it, it's part of the game and has been for ever.

as was pointed out, Concord are not beat coppers, there to make sure you don't get mugged, they are there to deter ganking, though punishment.

If you want a play internet space ship games, might i suggest you play Star Trek Online, where you can have no risk and loss cost you nothing, you'd be happy there, doing your mission and pve and the rest of us with IQ's above 50 can get on with our game and not have listern to whiney little bitches like your goodself

Hope to see you on your ice belt, REAL soon

Edd
Alpheias
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#162 - 2012-07-17 15:00:05 UTC
Go play SWTOR. It is safe and it is in space.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

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feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#163 - 2012-07-20 09:06:23 UTC
Capitalise on the situation.
If belt ganks are happening often in your area then it's a good time to build & sell barges & their modules and make muchos isk.
If you're that utterly risk-averse only mine in belts where ganks have already taken place. They will be swarming with concord.

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#164 - 2012-07-20 21:27:32 UTC
It's lovely that ur comparing this to RL police, this aint RL.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#165 - 2012-07-20 22:06:57 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
It's lovely that ur comparing this to RL police, this aint RL.


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Talon Kitsune
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#166 - 2012-07-20 23:52:38 UTC
Lol, ganking is EVE. The game is designed around it. The new barges aren't meant to lower suicide ganking, or anything PvP related really, it's simply them making sure they touch on each aspect of the game as they do their rebalance initiative. Throwing us miners a bone that may not mean much in the final analysis as DPS and "gank" vessels are likely to get some rebalancing too. Accept it bro, you're going to die. Miner, Missioner, whatever role you choose, the gank is coming. It's just a matter of playing smart to delay it as long as possible :P
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#167 - 2012-07-21 00:56:09 UTC
Talon Kitsune wrote:
Lol, ganking is EVE. The game is designed around it. The new barges aren't meant to lower suicide ganking, or anything PvP related really, it's simply them making sure they touch on each aspect of the game as they do their rebalance initiative. Throwing us miners a bone that may not mean much in the final analysis as DPS and "gank" vessels are likely to get some rebalancing too. Accept it bro, you're going to die. Miner, Missioner, whatever role you choose, the gank is coming. It's just a matter of playing smart to delay it as long as possible :P

The defence for mining barges in highsec is (or was) based around the fact that if it's not porffitable for people to do it, not many people will.

Untill the destroyer rework it realy wasn't worth it for me to gank hulks/makinaws. But after the catalyst uberbuff I made an alt that earns me more than I ever could earn from lvl 4s in the same amount of time.
Adan Dominguez
Space Raptors In Space
#168 - 2012-07-21 07:07:11 UTC
Oh!!! I have an idea to go with your idea OP.

I will pay 20 mill per ship and 20 mill per pod killmail on the OP linked to me in this thread after the time of this posting. Once I verify the killmail is legit you will get paid.
I will continue payouts until I decide otherwise.


See OP, we both have wonderful ideas.
:D

MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#169 - 2012-07-21 07:29:36 UTC
CCP, increase ganking!
Pisov viet
Perkone
Caldari State
#170 - 2012-07-21 08:53:56 UTC
I'm all for the impossibility to suicide-gank in highsec, at the condition it comes with the impossibility to find rats there, to mission there, to mine there, to use station services there and put up POSes there.

If you want perfect security, you should not be able to devaluate the "work" of those who dont.
Sorceror Majiir
Doomheim
#171 - 2012-07-22 09:57:26 UTC
Astro: Yeah makes sense from a cash standpoint but not from a game growth standpoint.

Pisov: heh, actually seems I recall best HS gank was done by the Killer Klowns... owned a gate in HS for hours, several days in a row.. Concord could not defeat them, killed everything.. 1000s of ships.. course it cost their corp an entire member ban for life but heh... Just say no to HS kills orrrr pay 100 pu for trit., 1Billion for a T1 Battleship.. etc etc
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2012-07-22 11:08:35 UTC
feihcsiM wrote:
Capitalise on the situation.
If belt ganks are happening often in your area then it's a good time to build & sell barges & their modules and make muchos isk.
If you're that utterly risk-averse only mine in belts where ganks have already taken place. They will be swarming with concord.


But... Why would the OP do that? You're suggesting that the OP should adapt to the situation, when it's clearly CCP who needs to change the entire game to center around the OP

Just kidding. I'm just being sarcastic. The OP is a complete fool who keeps losing ships because he fails to adapt to the situation.

In the 3 years I've played, I've never once been Suicide-Ganked, nor have I ever witnessed a Suicide-Gank. Why? Because I know how to avoid such attacks. It's called D-Scan, mining in Grav-sites and mining aligned. Sure, there's only so much ore in a Grav-site, but so what? It's better ore than the high-sec belts, it gives extra security because gankers need to scan you down first, and there's usually not a single f*cking "Giant Secure Container" in a Grav-site, that does nothing but being ugly, being annoying and being in the way for warping out.

But, hey. If the OP wants to keep failing to adapt, let him. As long as CCP doesn't change the game to satisfy the OP, I'm fine.

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Elias Greyhand
#173 - 2012-07-22 11:22:29 UTC
CONCORD are there to deter criminals - punishment coming if they transgress - but as we all know deterence against crime is about as successful as taking a child molester to a playground.

"That which is done cannot be undone. But it can be avenged."

Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
Infinite Pew
#174 - 2012-07-22 11:27:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemon Ceed
feihcsiM wrote:
Capitalise on the situation.
If belt ganks are happening often in your area then it's a good time to build & sell barges & their modules and make muchos isk.
If you're that utterly risk-averse only mine in belts where ganks have already taken place. They will be swarming with concord.



It really doesn't matter if Concord is in the belt or not. I've ganked Hulks in 0.6 belts that were already filled with Concord. Granted, I've brought 2 other buddies in Catalysts, but the assumption that having Concord on grid will prevent a gank at all is comical...especially if the gankers are using Alpha Tornados. If I kill you on the very first shot then there's not much Concord can do besides dropping their donuts and issuing out a summary and reactive punishment.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#175 - 2012-07-22 16:44:12 UTC
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
Astro: Yeah makes sense from a cash standpoint but not from a game growth standpoint.

Pisov: heh, actually seems I recall best HS gank was done by the Killer Klowns... owned a gate in HS for hours, several days in a row.. Concord could not defeat them, killed everything.. 1000s of ships.. course it cost their corp an entire member ban for life but heh... Just say no to HS kills orrrr pay 100 pu for trit., 1Billion for a T1 Battleship.. etc etc

You need to:
1: learn how to quote people
2: stop assuming you know what makes this game grow. Because EVE has been this way for over 9 years and has shown steady growth (minus the incarna fiasco) the whole time.
Sorceror Majiir
Doomheim
#176 - 2012-07-22 19:47:37 UTC
Astro:

hahaha, I don't need how to learn to quote.. you understand me just fine.

Your idea of business growth and my idea of business growth are quite different it seems. I have actual RL experience in this sector, do you?? Check any business data online and you will see how Eve's business growth measures up vs what the current market is, what their market share growth is compared to industry overall growth in the last 9 years.

Keep in mind, I like the game - heck I love the game, my comments are geared to bring some understanding of the impact HS ganking has on the game and I oppose it. Sure, I'm crusading a bit with passion, people should hear something other than the constant bullying crap perps keep spewing. However, if it makes you feel any better, I'll be offline in a few weeks for a bit, have to head back to the Middle East.


- Majiir
Riku Klayton
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#177 - 2012-07-22 22:38:30 UTC
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#178 - 2012-07-22 22:43:51 UTC
Go mine in station? I heard it's 100% safe there..
Bulaba Jones
Bad Influence.
#179 - 2012-07-22 23:39:10 UTC
This is such a horrible thread, and a terrible idea to boot. Someone already said it: Concord is meant to serve as a consequence for unsavory actions in highsec. As for the OP's suggestion to put Concord in lowsec, that would defeat the purpose of lowsec. I also don't think the OP has ever stepped foot in lowsec or nullsec. Some people like living in highsec carebearing it up, sadly.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#180 - 2012-07-23 10:31:13 UTC
CCP please increase GANKING !

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.