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Faction Warfare - Resuscitating the Amarr
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Amymuffmuff
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#121 - 2012-07-18 11:51:44 UTC
I've added a comment to the blog with my views on what was said.

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#122 - 2012-07-18 14:56:58 UTC
Amymuffmuff wrote:

Quite alot of entities are dug in into amarr space. Such as Iron Oxide. in arzad and Late night in huola/kourm. To have moved all our **** before the patch would have been impossible so we took it to them to prevent that from happening.



I will have to agree that IO did do allot of plexing before inferno. I-law was plexing in and around arzad and we were met with allot of resistance from allot of players. Yes we were also met with a few bugged plexes which was disheartening, but there were clearly allot of minmatar players plexing around that area before inferno hit. Too many for us to take and hold those systems.

So amarr had to do the "impossible" and move allot of our stuff out before the patch hit at the most critical time to run plexes. (Every pre inferno plex counted 5xs as much toward occupancy as every post inferno plex.) The general disarray the rule change on station lockouts caused the amarr, was something that has never happened due to any minmatar/player actions. Not when RKK joined minmatar and certainly the goons actions didn't even come close to the disruption that station lock out caused amarr at such a critical time.

But anyway my point is that there are allot of minmatar that want to say how they "earned" thier lp store yet they never did any plexing before inferno. It was the preinferno plexing combined with ccp changing the rules on docking that really did the amarr in. IO is sort of an exception to this rule. I do agree they did allot of plexing and they did a good job holding arzad.

Anyway I have always been against a reset. Players should play the game as best they can. I never like it when players are supposed to enter any sort of "scouts honor" agreements to make the game fun. If its simply broken when both players push the mechanics as much as they can, then ccp should fix the underlying mechanics. (not just a reset.)

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Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
#123 - 2012-07-21 15:46:40 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
And why should Amarr take any system at all when plexing has yet to be fixed, incentives are out of whack (x16 difference, Trololololled by Soundwave) and they need to capture everything way deep into Heimatar+ to get highest tier or even second highest.
Someone did the math a while ago: Every system taken equals some absurd number of billions for Shakor as alts farm it back again ..

Also, "lol" at return to 'good fights' .. as long as incentives are as high as they are you'd need some serious mechanics magic to make it more than FarmVille™, Eve Edition. The winter patch may rejuvenate FW if CCP are willing to design it based on more than brainfarts from hung-over Devs/players .. but since it would require almost all of the Inferno changes be axed/heavily modified the chances are slim to none (would be admission of ineptitude).

Tl;dr: FW will remain an Eve version of FarmVille™ for the foreseeable future. Enjoy.

PS: Current state of affairs on both fronts was accurately predicted by us in the common sense/logic crowd and since we are not omniscient one can only conclude that it could have been easily avoided had CCP done their homework.
PPS: Noticing that a lot/most of the people who said "OMG THIS IS AWESOME!" immediately after the patch have applied to be let back into the "Fix FW Club". Please be patient as we ramp up activity again.


"Rejuvenate" FW? Implying it is dead??
PvP kills have never been higher in FW. There is plenty going on, you don't have a clue.
Rommell Drako
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#124 - 2012-07-21 21:44:14 UTC
I noticed how the only ones complaining about the current FW situation are the minmatar and their alts... Now why would they be so upset at winning? I thought capture of all the systems was winning... wouldnt that make sense? or are they worried about their isk faucet? for shame....
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#125 - 2012-07-21 22:52:57 UTC
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
dribble...
"Rejuvenate" FW? Implying it is dead??
PvP kills have never been higher in FW. There is plenty going on, you don't have a clue.
It's sucks when facts get in the way of a good rant.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#126 - 2012-07-25 16:05:34 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
dribble...
"Rejuvenate" FW? Implying it is dead??
PvP kills have never been higher in FW. There is plenty going on, you don't have a clue.
It's sucks when facts get in the way of a good rant.



I'm betting pvp kills were higher the week before and after inferno than they were the last 2 weeks.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#127 - 2012-07-25 16:14:26 UTC
Cearain wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
dribble...
"Rejuvenate" FW? Implying it is dead??
PvP kills have never been higher in FW. There is plenty going on, you don't have a clue.
It's sucks when facts get in the way of a good rant.

I'm betting pvp kills were higher the week before and after inferno than they were the last 2 weeks.

I'm still getting plenty of kills. Will have highest monthly total ever by the end of this month. You must be doing it wrong. P
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#128 - 2012-07-25 16:17:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
dribble...
"Rejuvenate" FW? Implying it is dead??
PvP kills have never been higher in FW. There is plenty going on, you don't have a clue.
It's sucks when facts get in the way of a good rant.

I'm betting pvp kills were higher the week before and after inferno than they were the last 2 weeks.

I'm still getting plenty of kills. Will have highest monthly total ever by the end of this month. You must be doing it wrong. P


I might be wrong. Plus things may be different on the caldari gallente side than they are in the minmatar amarr side. Do you know of anything where we can actually check statistics on this?

The faction war tab gives kills for the current week but not the earlier ones.

Edit: and yes I might be doing it wrong too. I am running plexes in the minmatar main systems of huola kourm and dal. I might be better off sitting in a gate camp on the kamela kourm gate.

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Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#129 - 2012-07-25 19:54:56 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
dribble...
"Rejuvenate" FW? Implying it is dead??
PvP kills have never been higher in FW. There is plenty going on, you don't have a clue.
It's sucks when facts get in the way of a good rant.

I'm betting pvp kills were higher the week before and after inferno than they were the last 2 weeks.

I'm still getting plenty of kills. Will have highest monthly total ever by the end of this month. You must be doing it wrong. P


I must say. If I wasn't managing a corporation and taking week and a half off to deal with recent corporate mergers etc. I would have a load more kills. Not that I dont have alot now, but I had this amount around 1 week and 1 - 3 days into the month.

Even when im just passing threw where ever around blackrise there are fights every where. I serious, real deal crucible. P hard to avoid them. I'm looking forward to next month when I can focus alot more on pvp.


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Esk Esme
Simply Pleasure inc
#130 - 2012-07-27 10:53:22 UTC
OP is a crackpot

war in eve is over space and isk resorces

when a 0.0 allaince takes space it claims the spoils

when a FW militia takes space it claims the spoils

whats the difrence ?

you have farming alts in 0.0 allainces farming for isk

you have alts in FW farming for isk

whats the difrence ?

see alot ppl crying over Fw but its no difrent to 0.0 except the player gets the cash not the select few like in 0.0

my spelling sux sue me