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[Video] Rebirth 4 (Empire PVP)

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Prozacxx
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#601 - 2012-07-18 23:48:49 UTC
NightmareX wrote:

When i see an empire movie, i expect to see Mercenary type of movie where some PVP'ers goes into a fight with some others who fights back.



yes fighting back is the first thing to think of when someone says empire

also ur so fixated on "this is how empire works"

its what u make out of it

nobody tells u to do it like that

im not saying u r not allowed to do that

im saying its utterly boring and **** and noone here is even trolling ur **** movie cuz its ****

people want to see exciting stuff u know?

urs aint

maybe for ur corp it can be im not denying that

thats y u post it on ur corps forums

not here
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#602 - 2012-07-18 23:59:28 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Prozacxx wrote:
NightmareX wrote:

When i see an empire movie, i expect to see Mercenary type of movie where some PVP'ers goes into a fight with some others who fights back.



yes fighting back is the first thing to think of when someone says empire

also ur so fixated on "this is how empire works"

its what u make out of it

nobody tells u to do it like that

im not saying u r not allowed to do that

im saying its utterly boring and **** and noone here is even trolling ur **** movie cuz its ****

people want to see exciting stuff u know?

urs aint

maybe for ur corp it can be im not denying that

thats y u post it on ur corps forums

not here


For 0.0 space players, it's boring. In the same way as ganking in low sec or blobbing in 0.0 space is boring for most of the empire players.

But then again, you know how many that are living in empire that doesn't like 0.0 space for a gooooooood reason.

So i don't care what some few weird 0.0 space players means about an empire PVP movie. I want feedbacks from players that knows how empire is and how it works that also lives there everyday. Not from some 0.0 space players who doesn't have a freaking clue about empire.

I want to improve my video to be better (if needed) after how the PVP standards are in empire, not after how low sec or 0.0 space is.

So what you see in this movie is how empire PVP is today. And if you don't like empire PVP, then no one is forcing you to download my movie. And no one is forcing you to tell me to how to make a movie when there is very few ways of actually do PVP in empire.

The fact that someone is expecting 'Matari Exodus' or Kil2 quality of PVP in an empire movie is extremely ridicoulous.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Sturm Gewehr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#603 - 2012-07-19 02:49:44 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Meridith Akesia wrote:
Mirrodin wrote:
Came from Reddit expecting complete fail. Left satisfied.

You sir, don't know what you're doing. I hope your Corp/Alliance boots you for giving them such a terrible reputation all of a sudden.


Wont happen, because the rest of his alliance is on par with NightmareX.


Meridith Akesia
Stimulus
Rote KapelleLol

Now THAT's a carebear alliance. So you shouldn't really talk about what alliances that are bad.


your video was bad
Jezs
This is not the corporation you are looking for
#604 - 2012-07-19 03:00:54 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
The fact that someone is expecting 'Matari Exodus' or Kil2 quality of PVP in an empire movie is extremely ridicoulous.

So basically empire pvp movies are inherently worse than others?
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#605 - 2012-07-19 03:33:04 UTC
This is turgid puke even for empire pvpers. Keep believing and dismissing (lol) everyone as clueless nullbears or blobtatds though.
See you next time I log into sisi m8m8.

10/10 for your years of pretending to be a clueless moron though, it takes some dedication to the cause to pretend to be so utterly inept.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Cartheron Crust
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#606 - 2012-07-19 04:32:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Cartheron Crust
NightmareX wrote:
Cartheron Crust wrote:
*Constructive Criticism Snipped*

PS - Also for a good example of smaller scale Remote Rep video watch Miriam Sasko's "Professional's". Will try to find a link later.


Ladies and gentlemen, here is a perfect example of a very good post i want to see much more of instead of the typical 'your movie sucks bla bla bla because of PVP at station and logistics being used' whining.

I'm gonna thank you for your positive critisism of my movie Cartheron Crust.

I know my movie isn't perfect and i know my movie wont please the 0.0 space fanbois'es, so i know that i have a room for improvements. So your post here is something i will note down to my next video.


No problem. Ignore the trolls. The video is better than your last one. The next one can maybe be better again with just the addition of more interesting fights and some slight editing improvements.

Here - The Professionals - is the link to the video I recomended. However, as you have mentioned the corps video's in a later post I should warn you it is by a Matari Exodus player. Most, if not all, of the fights are on gates/stations (I don't remember exactly) and involve remote repping (except the last two fights).
Laktos
Perkone
Caldari State
#607 - 2012-07-19 06:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Laktos
Cartheron Crust wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Cartheron Crust wrote:
*Constructive Criticism Snipped*

PS - Also for a good example of smaller scale Remote Rep video watch Miriam Sasko's "Professional's". Will try to find a link later.


Ladies and gentlemen, here is a perfect example of a very good post i want to see much more of instead of the typical 'your movie sucks bla bla bla because of PVP at station and logistics being used' whining.

I'm gonna thank you for your positive critisism of my movie Cartheron Crust.

I know my movie isn't perfect and i know my movie wont please the 0.0 space fanbois'es, so i know that i have a room for improvements. So your post here is something i will note down to my next video.


No problem. Ignore the trolls. The video is better than your last one. The next one can maybe be better again with just the addition of more interesting fights and some slight editing improvements.

Here - The Professionals - is the link to the video I recomended. However, as you have mentioned the corps video's in a later post I should warn you it is by a Matari Exodus player. Most, if not all, of the fights are on gates/stations (I don't remember exactly) and involve remote repping (except the last two fights).


I'm glad you linked that, cause it highlights a fundamental difference between a video maker like Miriam and someone like NightmareX.

Miriam and every other pvper who has ever released a quality video, reaches that sort of quality by thinking long and hard about what sort of footage is exciting for the average viewer to watch and taking criticism in a constructive and thoughtful way and using it to improve on their next video.

Nightmares logic goes more like: "If you don't like my movie, the problem is with you and I'm gonna keep posting and telling you how stupid you are and how much of a 0.0 bear you are until you see the error of your ways and like my movie!"

:)

Latest PVP Video: Perseverance

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DARKSTAR POWNYOUALL
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#608 - 2012-07-19 06:53:23 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
So i don't care what some few weird 0.0 space players means about an empire PVP movie. I want feedbacks from players that knows how empire is and how it works that also lives there everyday. Not from some 0.0 space players who doesn't have a freaking clue about empire


WELL YOU GOT THAT. PLENTY OF HIGH SEC PVPERS IN HERE. THEY ALL SAID THE SAME THING THE NULL GUYS DID. AND THE LOWSEC GUYS DID. NOBODY LIKES YOUR MOVIE BRO. WHEN EMPIRE PLAYERS FIND YOUR **** BORING, ITS TIME TO MOVE ON. YOU WILL ACCEPT POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM HIGH SEC PLAYERS NO DOUBT, BUT IF YOU GET NEGATIVE FEEDBACK YOU WILL SAY THEIR OPINION DOESN'T COUNT.

THERES A REASON WHY NOBODY LIKES YOU.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#609 - 2012-07-19 08:44:01 UTC
Quote:
Can i ask how you expect an empire PVP movie to be?


To be fair, It cant look any worse or better than this.

Its not the point I am trying to get a across. You do seem to think you are, your play style is something special when its not lol. Anyone can do this.

There is nothing to be good at, there is no skill level, the risk is minimum to non existent.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#610 - 2012-07-19 12:17:40 UTC
"Now this is low sec where we can get titan bridged and hotdropped by alot of capital ships, so that's why we are bringing down friends with us.

Many of us (including me) use LG Slaves, damage and ROF implants, so we have to be carefull.

Anyways, lets see how those fights will go."

~ NightmareX

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#611 - 2012-07-19 13:28:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
NightmareX wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Well, the problem with your video is that it is not poorly edited, it is just more dull than watching a catholic couple have sex.


I have no problem with that. But it's clearly written in my subject that this is an empire PVP movie. And if you don't like empire PVP movies after seing my subject, then don't come here and tell me the movie are bad when you clearly don't like empire PVP to begin with and when you know empire PVP can't get any better than it is in my movie.

If you don't like this movie, then you will never like any other empire PVP movies either, because when it comes to empire PVP, then what we do is the best we can get out of PVP in empire today with the current mechanics.


I never said I don't enjoy empire PvP or empire PvP videos, I said I don't enjoy your videos because your videos literally are the EVE equivalent of a really annoying FPS video.

Of course, you can go on arguing that 9000 or whatever number would disagree with me but can you tell me the number of viewers that has watched your videos to the end? I am honestly more interested in that.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#612 - 2012-07-19 17:48:14 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Sturm Gewehr wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Meridith Akesia wrote:
Mirrodin wrote:
Came from Reddit expecting complete fail. Left satisfied.

You sir, don't know what you're doing. I hope your Corp/Alliance boots you for giving them such a terrible reputation all of a sudden.


Wont happen, because the rest of his alliance is on par with NightmareX.


Meridith Akesia
Stimulus
Rote KapelleLol

Now THAT's a carebear alliance. So you shouldn't really talk about what alliances that are bad.


your video was bad


As bad as your alliance and post i'll guess?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Altaen
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#613 - 2012-07-19 17:51:41 UTC
Guys. Seriously. Triple boxing 3 alt logi is really hard, and even harder if you only have two monitors. Have some respect.

And to the OP, next time just film yourself frantically triple boxing, alt tabbing and switching clients and such. That'll show 'em why what looks like an extremely boring risk-free fight was actually hard for you, and will look like an achievement maybe?
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#614 - 2012-07-19 17:55:23 UTC
Jezs wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
The fact that someone is expecting 'Matari Exodus' or Kil2 quality of PVP in an empire movie is extremely ridicoulous.

So basically empire pvp movies are inherently worse than others?


No, they are worse to you because you think i can do the samw quality of a movie as Kil2 have in his movies and the same with the Matari Exodus movies to. You expect way to much to be an empire PVP movie. That's what it's all about.

You expect something that is pretty much impossible to do in empire as the current mechanics are.

That's why most of you in here are freaking stupid when it comes to empire PVP.

Lady Spank wrote:
This is turgid puke even for empire pvpers. Keep believing and dismissing (lol) everyone as clueless nullbears or blobtatds though.
See you next time I log into sisi m8m8.

10/10 for your years of pretending to be a clueless moron though, it takes some dedication to the cause to pretend to be so utterly inept.


Yup, since most of 0.0 space is all about blobbing the crap out of others and to have tne biggest capital ship blob, then you get stamped as a dumb blobber to, since you stamp my video to be bad just because you don't have a freaking clue about how empire wars is and only thinks it's all about station games.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#615 - 2012-07-19 17:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Laktos wrote:
Cartheron Crust wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Cartheron Crust wrote:
*Constructive Criticism Snipped*

PS - Also for a good example of smaller scale Remote Rep video watch Miriam Sasko's "Professional's". Will try to find a link later.


Ladies and gentlemen, here is a perfect example of a very good post i want to see much more of instead of the typical 'your movie sucks bla bla bla because of PVP at station and logistics being used' whining.

I'm gonna thank you for your positive critisism of my movie Cartheron Crust.

I know my movie isn't perfect and i know my movie wont please the 0.0 space fanbois'es, so i know that i have a room for improvements. So your post here is something i will note down to my next video.


No problem. Ignore the trolls. The video is better than your last one. The next one can maybe be better again with just the addition of more interesting fights and some slight editing improvements.

Here - The Professionals - is the link to the video I recomended. However, as you have mentioned the corps video's in a later post I should warn you it is by a Matari Exodus player. Most, if not all, of the fights are on gates/stations (I don't remember exactly) and involve remote repping (except the last two fights).


I'm glad you linked that, cause it highlights a fundamental difference between a video maker like Miriam and someone like NightmareX.

Miriam and every other pvper who has ever released a quality video, reaches that sort of quality by thinking long and hard about what sort of footage is exciting for the average viewer to watch and taking criticism in a constructive and thoughtful way and using it to improve on their next video.

Nightmares logic goes more like: "If you don't like my movie, the problem is with you and I'm gonna keep posting and telling you how stupid you are and how much of a 0.0 bear you are until you see the error of your ways and like my movie!"

:)


Maybe because he can make some totally different PVP movies than i can do because he are in low sec / 0.0 space. Again, how many times do i have to say that this is an empire PVP movie where wecan't do all of the crazy things you can do in low sec and 0.0 space because of how empire works?

Just keep continuing to pretend to be a dumbass Lol

Altaen wrote:
Guys. Seriously. Triple boxing 3 alt logi is really hard, and even harder if you only have two monitors. Have some respect.

And to the OP, next time just film yourself frantically triple boxing, alt tabbing and switching clients and such. That'll show 'em why what looks like an extremely boring risk-free fight was actually hard for you, and will look like an achievement maybe?


As much hard as it is to tripple boxing with alts in 0.0 space and low sec in carriers.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#616 - 2012-07-19 18:00:19 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Quote:
Can i ask how you expect an empire PVP movie to be?


To be fair, It cant look any worse or better than this.

Its not the point I am trying to get a across. You do seem to think you are, your play style is something special when its not lol. Anyone can do this.

There is nothing to be good at, there is no skill level, the risk is minimum to non existent.


In other words, empire PVP movies is someting you wont like and never will.

Why are you in this topic when my subject say 'Empire PVP' clearly to you?

Alpheias wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Well, the problem with your video is that it is not poorly edited, it is just more dull than watching a catholic couple have sex.


I have no problem with that. But it's clearly written in my subject that this is an empire PVP movie. And if you don't like empire PVP movies after seing my subject, then don't come here and tell me the movie are bad when you clearly don't like empire PVP to begin with and when you know empire PVP can't get any better than it is in my movie.

If you don't like this movie, then you will never like any other empire PVP movies either, because when it comes to empire PVP, then what we do is the best we can get out of PVP in empire today with the current mechanics.


I never said I don't enjoy empire PvP or empire PvP videos, I said I don't enjoy your videos because your videos literally are the EVE equivalent of a really annoying FPS video.

Of course, you can go on arguing that 9000 or whatever number would disagree with me but can you tell me the number of viewers that has watched your videos to the end? I am honestly more interested in that.


And?

If you don't know it, many peoples likes to watch those types of fraps footages. Was that something new to you?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
mama guru
Yazatas.
#617 - 2012-07-19 18:27:47 UTC
Nightmare X,

If the Yankees brought up a team of 70 year olds for the world series then they would loose.

Do you think they would say stuff like: Well in the retirement league i can almost hit the ball hard enough to make it move so relatively speaking im better than Babe Ruth?

No they would not, but you are.


I could beat the **** out of Muhammad Ali because he is 70 years old and has parkinsons. But that would not make me entitled to be called the greatest of all time, nor would i fraps it and post a vid of it on Eurosport and expect positive feedback.


But you totally would.

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
Prozacxx
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#618 - 2012-07-19 18:28:35 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Again, how many times do i have to say that this is an empire PVP movie where wecan't do all of the crazy things you can do in low sec and 0.0 space because of how empire works?



plz elaborate
Sturm Gewehr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#619 - 2012-07-19 18:35:06 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Sturm Gewehr wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Meridith Akesia wrote:
Mirrodin wrote:
Came from Reddit expecting complete fail. Left satisfied.

You sir, don't know what you're doing. I hope your Corp/Alliance boots you for giving them such a terrible reputation all of a sudden.


Wont happen, because the rest of his alliance is on par with NightmareX.


Meridith Akesia
Stimulus
Rote KapelleLol

Now THAT's a carebear alliance. So you shouldn't really talk about what alliances that are bad.


your video was bad


As bad as your alliance and post i'll guess?


almost

but not quite
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#620 - 2012-07-19 18:48:53 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Well, the problem with your video is that it is not poorly edited, it is just more dull than watching a catholic couple have sex.


I have no problem with that. But it's clearly written in my subject that this is an empire PVP movie. And if you don't like empire PVP movies after seing my subject, then don't come here and tell me the movie are bad when you clearly don't like empire PVP to begin with and when you know empire PVP can't get any better than it is in my movie.

If you don't like this movie, then you will never like any other empire PVP movies either, because when it comes to empire PVP, then what we do is the best we can get out of PVP in empire today with the current mechanics.


I never said I don't enjoy empire PvP or empire PvP videos, I said I don't enjoy your videos because your videos literally are the EVE equivalent of a really annoying FPS video.

Of course, you can go on arguing that 9000 or whatever number would disagree with me but can you tell me the number of viewers that has watched your videos to the end? I am honestly more interested in that.


And?

If you don't know it, many peoples likes to watch those types of fraps footages. Was that something new to you?


Well then, you found your audience then but I doubt that age group cares much about EVE and cares more about World of Warcraft and games like Call of Duty, Battlefield and Halo on Xbox 360 and Xbox Live.

But on the topic of your video, at least you have moved from the test server to TQ. As for a great empire PvP video. Remember OMNOR? They made some awesome PvP videos back in the day and it still is awesome.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.