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[Video] Rebirth 4 (Empire PVP)

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#441 - 2012-07-15 19:04:14 UTC
Ohh Yeah wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Ohh Yeah wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Klown Walk wrote:
I guess RvB doesn´t really exsist since it´s impossible to pvp without logistics or move away from a station in high sec.


Try to fight 15 (with the logistics we had) vs 40+ and come back and say if the logistics isn't needed or what: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkjdIsRSTZg

And at the same time kill 70-75% of their fleet to.


Do you nerds really not even use broadcasts? You seriously scroll up and down our overview sorted by name to find primaries?

Wow, seriously terrible


Baww, cry more. Even though some of us might not have the best overview setups, we are still doing extremely well in PVP.


Then if you don't have the best overview settings and don't use broadcasts, I see no reason for you to argue that you're the absolute best at what you do. You're clearly lacking in a lot of ways that would make even the most basic tasks more efficient.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that any **** alliance (Lookin' at you, Nulli) that wanted to make an alt corp with 5 alliance-funded vindicators and 10 out of corp Logis could do exactly what you do, but much better.

You could give anybody with any PvP experience the same resources that you have and they would be just as good, or better. I think 90% of EVE uses broadcasts to handle target calling now, putting you in the 10% that can't even do that right.


Ahh yeah, we are so good that we don't really need to use the broadcast Big smile

But we are using broadcast alot in my movie though. And my overview setup is nice.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Kingwood
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#442 - 2012-07-15 19:06:08 UTC
Prozacxx wrote:
gonna try to be ur wingman then @ mechs


Nice, did you sign up already?
Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal
#443 - 2012-07-15 19:19:52 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Davion Falcon wrote:
NightmareX wrote:


Most peoples i know that are bored of 0.0 space use to say this: Do blob or get blobbed.

Darkstar is a tiny fraction of the 0.0 and low sec population that does what they do.


You're the only one in this thread that makes that claim and says "Blob or get blobbed".

Your wild accusation "Darkstar is from nullsec and nullsec is boring!" doesn't really apply to him, now does it?

inb4 "But that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't fly like I do, supported by 1:1 neutral logistics to enemy dps ships at 0km on a station undock!"


That's because you want to hide the fact that it actually is 'do blob or get blobbed'.

You all try all you can to make it sounds like 0.0 space is so nice and good, while it isn't.


You're the only one putting up these straw man arguments and wild, baseless, accusations.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. Never forgotten, never forgiven.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#444 - 2012-07-15 19:20:40 UTC
Davion Falcon wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Davion Falcon wrote:
NightmareX wrote:


Most peoples i know that are bored of 0.0 space use to say this: Do blob or get blobbed.

Darkstar is a tiny fraction of the 0.0 and low sec population that does what they do.


You're the only one in this thread that makes that claim and says "Blob or get blobbed".

Your wild accusation "Darkstar is from nullsec and nullsec is boring!" doesn't really apply to him, now does it?

inb4 "But that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't fly like I do, supported by 1:1 neutral logistics to enemy dps ships at 0km on a station undock!"


That's because you want to hide the fact that it actually is 'do blob or get blobbed'.

You all try all you can to make it sounds like 0.0 space is so nice and good, while it isn't.


You're the only one putting up these straw man arguments and wild, baseless, accusations.


Like you guys put up straw man arguments and wild, baseless, accusations about empire PVP.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#445 - 2012-07-15 19:25:09 UTC
Tu quoque isn't a valid rebuttal, even if it's true. Except here, the arguments aren't straw men, and the allegations about the nature of high sec PVP are based on evidence displayed in your own video.
Kaeda Maxwell
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#446 - 2012-07-15 19:27:03 UTC
Hey I just heard greyscale say no more neutral reps. Are you sad now?
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#447 - 2012-07-15 19:27:12 UTC
NightmareX: You just got laughed at on the Alliance Tournament stream, hahahah

Also, they've confirmed neutral Guardians will soon be impossible.

What will you doooooooooooooooo??

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#448 - 2012-07-15 19:27:35 UTC
NEED T2 BUCKETS FOR THE INCOMING TEARS

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Johnny Rook
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#449 - 2012-07-15 19:27:41 UTC
WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW?!?
Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal
#450 - 2012-07-15 19:30:33 UTC
HANG ON XxXxNiGhTMaRExXxX! LEMME GET MAH BUCKET!

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. Never forgotten, never forgiven.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#451 - 2012-07-15 19:37:13 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Khanh'rhh wrote:
NightmareX: You just got laughed at on the Alliance Tournament stream, hahahah

Also, they've confirmed neutral Guardians will soon be impossible.

What will you doooooooooooooooo??


Wow, i feel famous that my name got mentioned :-)

The thing that logistics is going to be nerfed have been talked about for years.

I'm gladly waiting for the changes.

EDIT: I really want to hear what they just said there.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Ohh Yeah
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#452 - 2012-07-15 19:39:49 UTC
NightmareX wrote:

EDIT: I really want to hear what they just said there.


"Neutral Guardians won't be viable much longer"
Prozacxx
Genos Occidere
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#453 - 2012-07-15 19:44:05 UTC
Kingwood wrote:
Prozacxx wrote:
gonna try to be ur wingman then @ mechs


Nice, did you sign up already?


yes i did lets hope i get in
Aliaksandre
Screaming Hayabusa
#454 - 2012-07-15 19:44:22 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
NightmareX: You just got laughed at on the Alliance Tournament stream, hahahah

Also, they've confirmed neutral Guardians will soon be impossible.

What will you doooooooooooooooo??


Wow, i feel famous that my name got mentioned :-)

The thing that logistics is going to be nerfed have been talked about for years.

I'm gladly waiting for the changes.

EDIT: I really want to hear what they just said there.


Settle down buddy, no one in CCP knows who you are.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#455 - 2012-07-15 19:45:47 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
EDIT: I really want to hear what they just said there.

Neutral reps will incur global aggression, meaning they effectively go red for all players on grid.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal
#456 - 2012-07-15 19:47:07 UTC
Aliaksandre wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
NightmareX: You just got laughed at on the Alliance Tournament stream, hahahah

Also, they've confirmed neutral Guardians will soon be impossible.

What will you doooooooooooooooo??


Wow, i feel famous that my name got mentioned :-)

The thing that logistics is going to be nerfed have been talked about for years.

I'm gladly waiting for the changes.

EDIT: I really want to hear what they just said there.


Settle down buddy, no one in CCP cares who you are.


FYP.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. Never forgotten, never forgiven.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#457 - 2012-07-15 19:53:09 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Khanh'rhh wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
EDIT: I really want to hear what they just said there.

Neutral reps will incur global aggression, meaning they effectively go red for all players on grid.


Not sure if you are with me, but i already back when i was in Nulli Secunda i did support to let the Logistics to get aggression timer for giving reps.

There was a topic about it in 'Assembly Hall' (on the old forum) like one and a half year ago or something like that.

Welcome to the EVE world i like to be in.

EDIT: I found the topic: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1076556

It's actually over 3 years ago since that topic got created.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Ohh Yeah
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#458 - 2012-07-15 22:32:59 UTC
You say that you'd welcome global aggression for Guardians, because surely with 6-8 Guardians there's still little risk.

Just wait until neutral Falcons to counter neutral Logi become FOTM
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#459 - 2012-07-15 22:48:26 UTC
Ohh Yeah wrote:
You say that you'd welcome global aggression for Guardians, because surely with 6-8 Guardians there's still little risk.

Just wait until neutral Falcons to counter neutral Logi become FOTM


There might be little risk for the Guardians, but that doesn't mean there is no risks for us the Guardians should rep.

Yup i still welcome that change to the Logistics.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Aliaksandre
Screaming Hayabusa
#460 - 2012-07-16 00:58:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Aliaksandre
Ohh Yeah wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
[quote=Ohh Yeah][quote=NightmareX]

~snip~

Baww, cry more. Even though some of us might not have the best overview setups, we are still doing extremely well in PVP.


Then if you don't have the best overview settings and don't use broadcasts, I see no reason for you to argue that you're the absolute best at what you do. You're clearly lacking in a lot of ways that would make even the most basic tasks more efficient.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that any **** alliance (Lookin' at you, Nulli) that wanted to make an alt corp with 5 alliance-funded vindicators and 10 out of corp Logis could do exactly what you do, but much better.

You could give anybody with any PvP experience the same resources that you have and they would be just as good, or better. I think 90% of EVE uses broadcasts to handle target calling now, putting you in the 10% that can't even do that right.


I would like to highlight this post, as I think it was lost in the badness of this thread. This is what we are all getting at. You choose to pvp in a way that is risk free, with neutral logi, hugging stations. You pvp in a way that is abhorrent to most in this game. If the way you pvped was "THE BEST" and you were "THE BEST" at pvping, then we would all be in empire doing your "ultimate" pvp.

The fact is, we aren't, because it isn't. You are not good at pvp. You choose to fight the bears and other empire bads under the safety of concord, because you can't handle the fact that you would get stomped in low sec or null.

And like he stated above...if ANY half decent low or null sec corporation came and pvped the way you choose to do so, you would quickly see how bad you and your lot really are. If real pvpers came to play with you, you would cry yourself to sleep at the thought of the billions of isk you would lose on a daily basis.

I guess then you would all have to kick yourselves out of your own corp!