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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#61 - 2011-09-22 22:03:57 UTC
Pyx Jasta wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
Actually, no. You would have doppler effect so, red in the front, and nothing behind you. That assumes, of course, that light can actually intersect with your eyes at FTL speed. That would depend upon the technology used for FTL travel. If you're warping space light may not intersect your position at all. If you're traveling outside space/time, would there be light?
It'd be blue in front wouldn't it? You're approaching objects hence blueshift, and red behind (objects receding).
…as always in these matters, I refer to this piece of mindfuckery.
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#62 - 2011-09-22 22:13:30 UTC
Byshop Kayl wrote:
Three cheers for quantum entanglement.


I always preferred "spooky action at a distance" Smile
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#63 - 2011-09-22 22:46:06 UTC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

Oh Snap. Things could get REAL interesting soon. That said, i'm treating it with a lot of skepticism. Some interesting points made here.
Caleb Locke
Doomheim
#64 - 2011-09-23 02:33:04 UTC
Interesting. But, How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?
And, how do magnets work?
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#65 - 2011-09-23 16:20:50 UTC
Caleb Locke wrote:
Interesting. But, How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?
And, how do magnets work?

As little as one, depending on tongue, and they work just fine, thanks for asking.
Lol

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#66 - 2011-09-23 17:09:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
Alberio wrote:
Byshop Kayl wrote:
Pyx Jasta wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:


Actually, no. You would have doppler effect so, red in the front, and nothing behind you. That assumes, of course, that light can actually intersect with your eyes at FTL speed. That would depend upon the technology used for FTL travel. If you're warping space light may not intersect your position at all. If you're traveling outside space/time, would there be light?


It'd be blue in front wouldn't it? You're approaching objects hence blueshift, and red behind (objects receding).



Correct, Red Shift occurs when an object's relative motion is away from the observer, and Blue Shift occurs when an object's relative motion is toward the observer.


This is one of my favorite little things in the game: that blue-shifting and red-shifting happen in warp. It's a neat little at-least-semi-realistic thing that I always enjoy when traveling.

Regarding the Kessell Run and black holes:

I think if a Pod Pilot fell into a black hole, that might be one of those "unrecoverable clone accidents" which happen occasionally. From what I recall of the lore, a breach in the pod causes the systems to take a flash brain scan of the pilots mind, and transmit it to the station where your clone is kept. This process kills the pilot, but they wake up in the clone bay good as new.

However: since light/information cannot escape the event horizon of a black hole, if you fell beyond it your brain scan would never reach the clone bay. Instead, the message would turn and fall with you into the black hole, only to be re-emitted trillions of years from now in the form of Hawking radiation.

EVE ships use FTL communication using some sort of weird quantum-entaglement boxes, so I suppose it's possible that your brain scan *may* be able to escape the event horizon of a black hole...but I feel that's probably unlikely. On the other hand, if you got too close to a black hole, it's likely the tidal forces would rip your ship (and subsequently, your pod) apart long before you dropped into the event horizon...so you might be safe afterall.

Back on the main topic: I think it's interesting to think about in terms of where I could get driving a car. For instance, in the time it takes me to drive from Houston to Austin, a warp-speed fit Interceptor could get to Proxima Centauri.

Unfortunately for the Interceptor, they don't have the luxury of being able to stop for Kolaches at Hruskas in Ellinger, TX. Sucks to be you, Interceptor!


sci-fy, the killer of phisics

While romantic ideas of massive whirlpools in space may play out well on the TV set or the big screen, the reality of the physics of a black hole would actually not prevent the data from returning to the clone bay.

we visualize holes with the age old standard representation of a mesh representing the gravity well and a black disc, this gives us the classic sink drain image that most people equate with a black hole

however, remember a black hole is a very small, very massive star, its a sphere and gravity works accordingly.
The point here is that the smaller the star, the smaller the event horizon.
and when I say small, I mean small, anywhere from a mile or less to a fraction of an inch.
by the time you got close enough to fall in and get stuck forever you are already a fine slurry of atoms due to the gravitational forces, your data may be slowed down a little, but it will still broadcast back to home as the point of no return line is very fine.
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2011-09-23 18:19:18 UTC
Speaking of EVE physics. Why is it that in non-fiction space, aka real life space. You can use a 5 mph engine to reach speeds of 20,000 mph. But in eve an afterburner constantly running keeps you at a constant speed? Where is all this resistance coming from?!

Something clever
Pyx Jasta
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2011-09-23 18:24:59 UTC
Alberio wrote:
[quote=Byshop Kayl]
Unfortunately for the Interceptor, they don't have the luxury of being able to stop for Kolaches at Hruskas in Ellinger, TX. Sucks to be you, Interceptor!


Dang right it does! I've been there, and they're mighty tasty.