EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

I obviously do, otherwise why would I have made a thread?

Then I think it's pretty clear you are delusional, and no amount of argument on my behalf is going to change that.

I mean, I clearly gave you multiple opportunities to reign it in but HOLY **** you were just running out there.

Complete this :

"I know for a fact CCP would act differently in this case because __________________________________________ "

Your argument needs to demonstrate logic and can't have circular reasoning.

From this thread I have learned:
Hydra/Outbreak working together to unfairly progress/win at the tournament: Revolting, horrific, unacceptable. Banned forever.
Any other teams working together to unfairly progress in the tournament: Le Epic Meta-Game! THIS IS EVE! YEAH!

Come on tournybums, pull your fingers out and stop teams from being able to buy advances in the tournament. I'd much rather see a better team get further into the tournament than the team with the willingness to throw loads of isk around to fudge the points system in their favour.

Two teams broke the rules and were banned. No other teams have yet to break the rules. What is your point?

There isn't one, is there?

Looking up big words in a dictionary doesn't make you win arguments bro, not sure why you're doing it.
You can't say the null hypothesis is all teams are treated equally, there is no precedent for that.

I like how you discard and ignore anything that doesn't fit in with your world view and continue on as if they had never happened. Are you perchance one of those people who likes to say "evolution is only a theory"?



I don't think you know what baseless means. Hell I even quoted my basis in the OP, or was that one of the many things you decided not to parse?

A bit harsh. I appreciate you are probably one of the people affected by injustice past, but CCP haven't published the qualified teams, points after the 2nd weekend, or the groupings anywhere yet. Perhaps they are going to be fairer than expected?

I refuted your argument by showing it has no basis in fact or logic. Your position "CCP would ban Hydra/0utbreak for doing the same thing" is indefensible conjecture based neither on precedent or facts at hand. I don't need to "look up big words" to make this argument, but I will note that your argument is merely an adhominem retort and you *still* have failed to tackle any of the logical points in question.

You don't need precedent to show the lack of bias. Indeed, you *absolutely require* it to show the presence of bias. I have asked you for this several times but you just post-angry and tell me I am delusional, yet can show no reason why your point of view is valid.

You again are acting like there is some evidence any un-fair play has happened. This is a self sustaining delusion; you are stating you know un-fair play has happened because you are saying it happened.

You need to break away from circular reasoning and show me any basis for your statement "Hydra/0utbreak would be banned for the same" which isn't simply your opinion.

Evolution is only a theory. More specifically it is a theoretical model based on all available evidence and thinking on the subject. It is also not contested by any non-correlating evidence and there is no logical reason to see the opposite as true; that evolution doesn't happen.

The nature of epistemology is such that you can chose to see this as "factual" (absolute truth with no flaw) or you can decide that is is simply the best thinking on the subject currently, and that further advancements might be made.

Assuming that 100% of the nature of being cannot be explained by evolution is not evidence that evolution doesn't exist, but merely a suggestion more information is needed. Evidence needs to contradict and break the logic of the assumption (that evolution happens) before you can state factually it does not. This is the problem fundies run into; their thinking is logically flawed and circular reasoning prevents them from moving out of it.

It's interesting that (once again) you raise a subject as a parallel and completely fail to realize that it undermines your own argument; the only person stating their opinion as fact and backing it up by circular reasoning is you.

You are the fundamentalist thinker, here.

You still claim a competition needs "hard and fast" rules but you still haven't told me how that can be, when your cited example of soccer has no "hard and fast" rule of what a goal is.

You really need to do better than this if you're going to go anywhere in life.

So much ignorance packed into one post, how on earth do you manage to come up with new ways to make a fool of yourself every few hours?

Now you argue that there can be no absolute fact. Well on this we agree, but it is largely irrelevant. However everything you claim is based on the absolute fact that CCP is non bias, despite no evidence to support the fact. Do you fail to see the irony here?

edit: Also the constant changing of tack and copy paste paragraphs really aren't helping, please cease. I have gotten where I want in life thanks, but I'm glad you had to resort to that.

I would like to welcome you all to Internet space ships. Where its serious business. And I would also like to welcome you to internet space ships alliance tournament ten. Where is really super serious business.

Meta-gaming is part of Eve. CCP wants it to be part of Eve. How do I know this, they make commercials about it. They go to gaming conferences like E3 and talk about it. CCP wants meta-gaming in their alliance tournament. I know this because they auction off spots for the tournament. What real sporting event would ever do that. The world cup would become a joke if they auctioned off spots to countries to participate. The Intentional handicap rule is another way they inject meta-gaming into the tournament.

What CCP doesn't want is bad tv. All sporting events want drama. It makes for better tv. Why do you think they shove microphones in front of athletes. Test buying those two points is exactly what CCP want in their tournament. It makes it more dramatic, it makes for good tv. As soon as the meta-gaming is no longer entertaining CCP will step in and fix it.

You may think my motive is to help Test Alliance. You would be wrong. I am not part of Fatal Ascensions leadership. I could care less if Test or Goons make it into the Tournament. In fact if you look at the prediction forum you would see I picked them to lose. The only team I truly care about is the Fatal team.

Too many People are taking this Internet space ship tournament too seriously. Its entertainment at its best. Its compelling fights with drama thrown in. I do love the alliance tournament, but don't make it into more then what it is.