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Why CFC Will Lose The War

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#41 - 2012-07-08 04:18:01 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
The clogged toilet known as CAOD, guys: It's over there ---->


I hope you realize that this is where the spotlight is shining in EVE right now, with out-of-game sources buzzing about it.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-07-08 04:18:29 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
The clogged toilet known as CAOD, guys: It's over there ---->



Everyone can't post in CAOD.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#43 - 2012-07-08 05:48:34 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
I like the idea of just handing over these regions to cool bros that need space and denying it to pathetic lapdog renters.


so goons won't be asking for rent on said systems,, lmfao,,,,, anyone getting this joke beside me.
Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-07-08 06:07:56 UTC
Losers will always redefine what losing is to protect their weak egos.

Ronald Reagan: I do not like Sweden, they support communism. Minister: Sir, but Sweden are anti-communist, Sir.  Ronald Reagan: I do not care what kind of communists they are.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#45 - 2012-07-08 06:13:55 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
I like the idea of just handing over these regions to cool bros that need space and denying it to pathetic lapdog renters.


so goons won't be asking for rent on said systems,, lmfao,,,,, anyone getting this joke beside me.


Why would we demand rent? We really haven't done that before.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Dersk
Perkone
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-07-08 06:14:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Dersk
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
I like the idea of just handing over these regions to cool bros that need space and denying it to pathetic lapdog renters.


so goons won't be asking for rent on said systems,, lmfao,,,,, anyone getting this joke beside me.


For goons to rent a system, they have to go through the rental process without scamming the would-be renters. That just won't happen. I've seen a cat use a toilet (stupid movie), an elephant fly (ok for disney), and a squirrel jump through the air to bypass a squirrel baffle (no ****). But, Goons legitimately renting space? Ha ha
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#47 - 2012-07-08 06:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
I like the idea of just handing over these regions to cool bros that need space and denying it to pathetic lapdog renters.


so goons won't be asking for rent on said systems,, lmfao,,,,, anyone getting this joke beside me.


The CFC does not do rent. We do not require things from allies, either. We treat each other like human beings, and boy does it pay off. Our enemies do an enforced CTA? Hah! We just launch a couple propaganda videos and retain higher participation percentages.
xRyokenx
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2012-07-08 07:22:17 UTC
SoCo sends mails about CTAs 2 days in advance, CFC sends out a ping 5 minutes before the fleet.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-07-08 07:25:23 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
I like the idea of just handing over these regions to cool bros that need space and denying it to pathetic lapdog renters.


so goons won't be asking for rent on said systems,, lmfao,,,,, anyone getting this joke beside me.


We have never in the history of our alliance or coalition rented space to anyone. We outright give space to people we like. I know this is really hard to believe for anyone that hasn't been in an alliance that doesn't treat its allies like trash, but its true. On top of that our moons and financial team make us such an obscene amount of money that any reasonable amount of rent we could charge for a system or region would be a drop in the bucket.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-07-08 07:28:32 UTC
xRyokenx wrote:
SoCo sends mails about CTAs 2 days in advance, CFC sends out a ping 5 minutes before the fleet.


It sure is nice of them to let us know all their plans so long in advance. That and having them infiltrated at every level.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-07-08 08:02:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
I tend to agree with the OP.

CFC+HB will be able to fill Delve & Querious just fine and probably also be able to defend their claim on Period Basis.

But to me the fate of Catch seems to rely on the success of the diplomatic effort to create a new "eastern coalition" around SOLAR - if that effort fails I don't really see what CFC+HB are going to do with it.

Their propaganda has pretty much brought them into a position where they will have to clear SoCo sov in Catch anyways but if they don't have S2N (or some other member of a cfc-approved neutral coalition) to install there taking the region in the first place doesn't seem to be rational: losses for -A- will be minimal as they have more than enough time to evac assets from Catch to NPC space and it will only give -A- momentum when they inevitably retake the region.

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Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#52 - 2012-07-08 08:20:47 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:

But to me the fate of Catch seems to rely on the success of the diplomatic effort to create a new "eastern coalition" around SOLAR - if that effort fails I don't really see what CFC+HB are going to do with it.

We don't want Catch...maybe we steamroll it for the sake of steamrolling it and those diplomatic efforts with SOLAR are already in progress.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-07-08 08:36:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Luba Cibre wrote:

We don't want Catch...

that was my point.

you don't want it but you are probably going to take it and you might conceivably end up in a situation where -A- will retake it in fall.

which is very much along the lines of what the OP claimed.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#54 - 2012-07-08 08:40:31 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Luba Cibre wrote:

We don't want Catch...

that was my point.

you don't want it but you are probably going to take it and you might conceivably end up in a situation where -A- will retake it in fall.

which is very much along the lines of what the OP claimed.


With the way -A- has been treating its pilots, I'd be surprised if it exists this fall.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2012-07-08 08:43:47 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:

Their propaganda has pretty much brought them into a position...


Oh dear, what would the pubbies think if we didn't follow through on the hurf blurf we post. Their opinions of us may sour.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Dave stark
#56 - 2012-07-08 08:44:38 UTC
ok guys, i'm clearly stupid.... so if taking all the sov isn't winning, how do we win?
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-07-08 08:47:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Akirei Scytale wrote:

With the way -A- has been treating its pilots, I'd be surprised if it exists this fall.

I'd put my money on -A- staying around - they seem to treat their pets and allies like **** and probably won't have much of a coalition left but I haven't heard anything outrageous about the way they treat their own pilots.

(I know an ex-corpmate who is currently with a -A- pet and he was very positively surprised - after having lived through the collapse of IT before - with the way the fallback to Stain worked last time; I doubt that CFC+HB will be helicopterdicking around Stain for more than 2-3 weeks and the region is not a terrible place to live in.)

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Haoibuni
Mish 4 free
#58 - 2012-07-08 08:51:19 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Why would we need to hold on to the space to win the war? Especially since we have all sorts of wonderful friends we could just give it to?....


Have fun jumping 50 jumps to find a fight once you do.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#59 - 2012-07-08 08:51:52 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
ok guys, i'm clearly stupid.... so if taking all the sov isn't winning, how do we win?


Burn it all down like a wildfire.
Dave stark
#60 - 2012-07-08 08:52:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
ok guys, i'm clearly stupid.... so if taking all the sov isn't winning, how do we win?


Burn it all down like a wildfire.


wildfire....

damn you, now i want to watch the end of s2 of game of thrones again...