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Titan hull cost double in last 12 months
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Spectre80
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-07-07 12:13:07 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Tippia wrote:
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
keep pretending like killing miners had nothing to do w. it, it was all the drones..
Seeing as how the death of a few miners hasn't really affected mineral prices all that much, whereas the removal of drone goo and T1 loot drops made the prices double… yes. Killing miners had nothing to do with it.

In fact, it was their irrelevance that was the entire problem and what made it necessary to remove the goo and drops.



-snip-

This post has been edited. No personal attacks, please.

ISD Tyrozan
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#22 - 2012-07-07 12:29:53 UTC
Uraga Kurofune wrote:
The best part is that mining still isn't a viable source of income compared to other ways of making isk.
At least it beats L3 missions now as something to do in highsec.

It might leave the question of skill investment, but on the other hand, there's the matter of effort required…
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#23 - 2012-07-07 12:31:18 UTC
Spectre80 wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
keep pretending like killing miners had nothing to do w. it, it was all the drones..
Seeing as how the death of a few miners hasn't really affected mineral prices all that much, whereas the removal of drone goo and T1 loot drops made the prices double… yes. Killing miners had nothing to do with it.

In fact, it was their irrelevance that was the entire problem and what made it necessary to remove the goo and drops.



you know you are a *****, right?



The facts have a strong anti-hisec miner bias

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#24 - 2012-07-07 12:50:52 UTC
Uraga Kurofune wrote:
The best part is that mining still isn't a viable source of income compared to other ways of making isk.


Mining sure as heck beats anything that requires attention and thinking when it comes to being productive while drunk/tired/rocking baby to sleep.

I used to love the whoosh sounds of ice harvesting too. But that got changed, because apparently mesmerising lasers with hypnotic whooshing sounds was overpowered.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#25 - 2012-07-07 12:57:18 UTC
Aw... I expected this to be a whine about how CCP is "nerfing the endgame" or something.

The disappointment... it burns.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-07-07 13:13:35 UTC
guess what, you aren't entitled to buy cheap titans

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#27 - 2012-07-07 14:13:30 UTC
God, I remember when Diagoras was tweeting about how much mining activity had dropped off. Apparently , though, there was never any reason to ever do Hulkageddon as a resource diverting mechanism, but rather to just grief a whole lot of people under false pretense. Good to know. Smile

John Hancock
Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#28 - 2012-07-07 14:19:22 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
keep pretending like killing miners had nothing to do w. it, it was all the drones.. sure it was

dont look at me when you are losing caps, ill be eating popcorn and laughing.



too funny

0/

Yeah, LMFAO Lol
Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#29 - 2012-07-07 14:20:39 UTC
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
didnt run the numbers for other cap+supers

Avatar = ~36b 9/12/11
Avatar =~70b 7/7/12

keep up the good work everyone, killing miners ftw

You seriously don´t have a clue how massive the mineral supply from Russian drone regions were. It was absolutely ******* gigantic.
Benjamin Eastwood
#30 - 2012-07-07 15:17:56 UTC
Just like the executive who can't buy the latest Ferrari, I cannot buy a Ferrari/Titan, therefore I don't give a flying f*** about your rich person tears.

"Endless ISK, the sinews of war"
Blobber NL
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-07-07 15:58:43 UTC
am i the only one that thinks the increased mineral prices are duo to BOTH drone nerf and miners ganking thingy?

I actually think those aren't the only 2 factors in this case.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#32 - 2012-07-07 17:24:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Blobber NL wrote:
am i the only one that thinks the increased mineral prices are duo to BOTH drone nerf and miners ganking thingy?
Well, look at it this way:

Before their first attempt at trying to balance the mineral influx from done goo and loot, mining was the source of ~45% of the game's trianium, megacyte and zydrine; ~30% of the game's mexallon and pyerite; and ~20% of the game's isogen and nocxium.

Now that those competing sources have, by and large, been removed rather than just feebly adjusted, a mere doubling of the price of items that require a fsckton of trit, mex, and pye seems like a surprisingly small increase… It's seems rather obvious that miners are stepping up their production, in spite of HG∞ and the like.
Werst Dendenahzees
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-07-07 17:27:13 UTC
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
didnt run the numbers for other cap+supers

Avatar = ~36b 9/12/11
Avatar =~70b 7/7/12

keep up the good work everyone, killing miners ftw


Now say thank you.
Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
#34 - 2012-07-07 17:37:39 UTC
ITT: OP gets a lesson on basic economics.

Killing miners increased the price of trit (Which has a relationship to all other mineral prices) no more than ~.5 isk and of veldy, no more than ~1.5 isk.

Drone goo elimination, had ~1-1.5 isk effect on trit, and ~3-4.5 on veldy.

Yes, killing miners has an effect, but the main effect was the inability to get huge stocks of veldy by killing drone rats in nullsec. In effect, the return of Veldy to supremacy.
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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-07-07 17:52:52 UTC
You don't buy minerals to build a Titan, as much as not sell them, if you see what I mean. So I doubt the price of minerals really makes a huge difference to the number of Titans that get built. The equation isn't usually "shall I sell these minerals or build a Titan", it's "I want a Titan"!
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#36 - 2012-07-07 23:15:28 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Before their first attempt at trying to balance the mineral influx from done goo and loot, mining was the source of ~45% of the game's trianium, megacyte and zydrine; ~30% of the game's mexallon and pyerite; and ~20% of the game's isogen and nocxium.


And yet Tritanium is creeping up so slowly in contrast to Pyerite. Mexallon is continuing its steady climb (Mexallon futures are the future!).

There's more to the story than where the minerals are sourced. Isogen is still recovering from the previous manipulation attempt.

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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#37 - 2012-07-08 03:17:25 UTC
There's too many titans, blow up more miners
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#38 - 2012-07-08 03:26:48 UTC
People forgot how T1 mods don't drop in missions anymore as well. That makes mineral prices go up too. Also alot of wars lately, which means more consuming of minerals, driving prices higher as well.

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Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-07-08 03:42:31 UTC
what I'm getting out this thread is that there needs to be a way to reprocess titans

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Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#40 - 2012-07-08 06:38:42 UTC
Im actually glad titan is more expensive to build. Theres too damn many of them in game allready. Cool

If you remember CCP tought of handfull of titans and what players actually did... I think its step to right direction, Titan should not be everyones favorite i win button thats gets throw arround lightly.

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