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So how about a round of applause for the "good" ones?
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Mark Androcius
#21 - 2012-07-06 09:51:53 UTC
OP obviously doesn't know that "bad" and "good" are very relative things in EvE.

I scam sometimes, but i only scam the scammers ( fooling them into believing a courier contract is worth more then it's collateral and then letting them break it, only to find out it\s worth jack shyte ), does this make me good or bad? i tend to think it makes me good for the good people and bad for the bad people and negative plus negative = positive, so i must be good.

Also, one of the first players i got into a war with, ended up being one of the nicest guys i know in this game, actually, he posted in this thread too ( you know who you are ;) ).

What it comes down to, is that everybody plays the game the way they like it and only very few people are actual rotten apples.

There's a lot of people who hate The Mittani, i don't really like the guy either ( for doing what he does, or makes others do ), but i respect him a lot.
In fact, Burn Jita was one of the best things to happen to EvE in quite a while ( when looking at player driven events, not game changes ).


Actually, it's funny looking back, 6 months ago, i would have been one of the people whining about all kinds of things, but after having a long hard look at the game, playing it different to how i usually play it, i almost completely stopped thinking in terms of good and bad.


Hope this might trigger more people to look to the other side, cause really, it WILL enhance your gaming experience.

https://androcius.wordpress.com
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-07-06 09:58:05 UTC
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
But what about the people that aren't scamming, lying, backstabbing or double crossing? There's got to be some good stories out there of some upstanding people doing some amazing things. The internet is always giving time for the foul and nefarious goings on of EVE, but never the good. It's a lot like real life media.


This is because EVE is one of the very few games that allows you to do what you want. Bad stories make for good press, good stories are boring.

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Hrothgar Nilsson
#23 - 2012-07-06 10:02:12 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Yeah, there's way too much attention being given to the dark side of this game.


About 3 1/2 years ago in corp chat, a Russian player stated in broken English - help, need 100k for big deal. pay back + share profit.

Everyone started saying it was a scam or the guy was lying, some calling him beggar and thief, telling him to GTFO, etc. I told chat that I would give the guy 1 million isk so that he had plenty of isk to work with. Everyone told me I wouldn't see that isk again, others said just give them the isk, etc. You know how it is.

So after I gave him the 1 million isk, a minute later he gives me back 900,000. I told chat about it and gave the 900,000 isk back. A minute later the same thing happens again. I tell chat again and return the 900,000 isk to the Russian. People in chat are telling me to stop, others are laughing. He once again returns the 900,000 and this time he links my name in chat channel with bold Russian text following it.

I tell corp chat that he gave the damn 900,000 isk back to me again and asked if anyone knew what the Russian text meant. Players said no but someone said the universal translation was that he was pissed off due to the bold text, others agreed and everyone was telling me I should just stop. I told them no, I had decided to give 1 million isk away and I was gonna stick with it so I gave the 900,000 isk back to the Russian for the 3rd time, linked his name in chat with bold English text - STOP.

About 5 minutes later the Russian linked my name in chat again and typed in English - thanks, deal done, sending share of profit. Players in chat started laughing and telling me to just keep the damn 900,000 isk this time. I agreed and when I checked my wallet, the Russian player had given me 10 million isk.

I told chat and the news pretty much had everyone stunned. I linked the Russian's name in chat and typed in thanks with o7. He then linked my name with :) o7.

I will never forget that experience. Just goes to show you not everyone in this game is looking to scam.

Madoff paid people off well. Got a whole lot of great word of mouth with the high returns he paid to a few to sucker money out of thousands of others.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Boudicca Arbosa
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-07-06 12:08:54 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
I've spent the past 2-3 days at work reading stories of EVE. Obviously, these stories are highly entertaining, but they're always about scamming, treachery, lying, backstabbing, double crossing and generally acting like turds. It's apart of the game. I get it.


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Boudicca Arbosa
Aegis Requiem.
Byzantine Empire
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Byzantine Empire


as a student of history, this makes me laugh. out loud.


You mean the thousand year empire that used its forces more to defend its walls from the Ottomans than they used it for force and expansion?
The Protato
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-07-06 12:15:02 UTC
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
You mean the thousand year empire that used its forces more to defend its walls from the Ottomans than they used it for force and expansion?


No, he means the kebab shop that sold me a dodgy Doner that gave me the runs.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-07-06 12:23:51 UTC
I'm helping people enlighten. Many have a false belief about highsec being save enough to be afk and i prove them otherwise.

Makes me a good guy. O:)
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#27 - 2012-07-06 12:24:10 UTC
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:


You mean the thousand year empire that used its forces more to defend its walls from the Ottomans than they used it for force and expansion?


He was referring to the fact that the Byzantine Empire was notoriously treacherous.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-07-06 12:41:31 UTC
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
So, do any of you guys have some good stories of you or someone doing good?
As a ninja, when it became obvious that they werent going to shoot me or do anything stupid, sometimes i would comple their mission for them if they had run away

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-07-06 12:46:38 UTC
There's plenty of nice one's. The other week a guy posted about how he got can baited. He took the bait, as most newbies do and died in a fire. The baiter took pity and bought him another ship, gave him advice and offered him to become a member of his corp. It's nice that people are willing to help people who'll stand up for themselves rather than ***** and moan about it.
Boudicca Arbosa
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-07-06 13:08:05 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:


You mean the thousand year empire that used its forces more to defend its walls from the Ottomans than they used it for force and expansion?


He was referring to the fact that the Byzantine Empire was notoriously treacherous.


Guess I'd have to see proof of that. They were no more treacherous as any other nation or empire. And treachery is subjective. The Byzantine Empire was the economic and cultural power in the Mediterranean. They weren't known as a military juggernaut, although, in truth, they were as evidenced by the fact that countless hundreds of jealous nations tried bringing down her walls for over 1,000 years. It was also one of the epicenters for music, art, philosophy, medicine and science.

Methinks I spy some uninformed educants.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#31 - 2012-07-06 13:11:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:


You mean the thousand year empire that used its forces more to defend its walls from the Ottomans than they used it for force and expansion?


He was referring to the fact that the Byzantine Empire was notoriously treacherous.


Guess I'd have to see proof of that. They were no more treacherous as any other nation or empire. And treachery is subjective. The Byzantine Empire was the economic and cultural power in the Mediterranean. They weren't known as a military juggernaut, although, in truth, they were as evidenced by the fact that countless hundreds of jealous nations tried bringing down her walls for over 1,000 years. It was also one of the epicenters for music, art, philosophy, medicine and science.

Methinks I spy some uninformed educants.


$50 that this guys Turkish and ate propaganda as a kid.

Their reputation was so strong and ingrained that the word "byzantine" means "of, relating to, or characterized by a devious and usually surreptitious manner of operation". (Source)
Boudicca Arbosa
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-07-06 13:12:39 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:


You mean the thousand year empire that used its forces more to defend its walls from the Ottomans than they used it for force and expansion?


He was referring to the fact that the Byzantine Empire was notoriously treacherous.


Guess I'd have to see proof of that. They were no more treacherous as any other nation or empire. And treachery is subjective. The Byzantine Empire was the economic and cultural power in the Mediterranean. They weren't known as a military juggernaut, although, in truth, they were as evidenced by the fact that countless hundreds of jealous nations tried bringing down her walls for over 1,000 years. It was also one of the epicenters for music, art, philosophy, medicine and science.

Methinks I spy some uninformed educants.


$50 that this guys Turkish and ate propaganda as a kid.



If I were Turkish, I'd be from an Ottoman line and thus wouldn't need propaganda as eventually (in 1453 I believe) Constantinople was "ours".
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#33 - 2012-07-06 13:40:10 UTC
This one time, at banned camp, CCP Sreegs showed up with a bunch of glass catheters and a ban hammer and went nuts on the RMT and bot crowd.

This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.

"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet
Nostradamouse Riraille
S.M.U.G.G.L.E.
#34 - 2012-07-06 16:00:31 UTC
I killed an annoying daredevil that was can flipping one of my corp members and got an hilarious killmail with my small blasters fitted Celestis. Huzza for overly specialised frigate killing ships.

Don't screw with my newbies in your **** fit daredevil.

That qualifies I guess.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-07-06 21:59:37 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Yeah, there's way too much attention being given to the dark side of this game.


About 3 1/2 years ago in corp chat, a Russian player stated in broken English - help, need 100k for big deal. pay back + share profit.

Everyone started saying it was a scam or the guy was lying, some calling him beggar and thief, telling him to GTFO, etc. I told chat that I would give the guy 1 million isk so that he had plenty of isk to work with. Everyone told me I wouldn't see that isk again, others said just give them the isk, etc. You know how it is.

So after I gave him the 1 million isk, a minute later he gives me back 900,000. I told chat about it and gave the 900,000 isk back. A minute later the same thing happens again. I tell chat again and return the 900,000 isk to the Russian. People in chat are telling me to stop, others are laughing. He once again returns the 900,000 and this time he links my name in chat channel with bold Russian text following it.

I tell corp chat that he gave the damn 900,000 isk back to me again and asked if anyone knew what the Russian text meant. Players said no but someone said the universal translation was that he was pissed off due to the bold text, others agreed and everyone was telling me I should just stop. I told them no, I had decided to give 1 million isk away and I was gonna stick with it so I gave the 900,000 isk back to the Russian for the 3rd time, linked his name in chat with bold English text - STOP.

About 5 minutes later the Russian linked my name in chat again and typed in English - thanks, deal done, sending share of profit. Players in chat started laughing and telling me to just keep the damn 900,000 isk this time. I agreed and when I checked my wallet, the Russian player had given me 10 million isk.

I told chat and the news pretty much had everyone stunned. I linked the Russian's name in chat and typed in thanks with o7. He then linked my name with :) o7.

I will never forget that experience. Just goes to show you not everyone in this game is looking to scam.


yeah but what about band camp.

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Benjamin Eastwood
#36 - 2012-07-06 22:09:18 UTC
The week after I started playing I built a bunch of Bantams and mining lasers and was giving them out as presents. Charity is fun.

"Endless ISK, the sinews of war"
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-07-06 22:09:37 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Yeah, there's way too much attention being given to the dark side of this game.


About 3 1/2 years ago in corp chat, a Russian player stated in broken English - help, need 100k for big deal. pay back + share profit.

Everyone started saying it was a scam or the guy was lying, some calling him beggar and thief, telling him to GTFO, etc. I told chat that I would give the guy 1 million isk so that he had plenty of isk to work with. Everyone told me I wouldn't see that isk again, others said just give them the isk, etc. You know how it is.

So after I gave him the 1 million isk, a minute later he gives me back 900,000. I told chat about it and gave the 900,000 isk back. A minute later the same thing happens again. I tell chat again and return the 900,000 isk to the Russian. People in chat are telling me to stop, others are laughing. He once again returns the 900,000 and this time he links my name in chat channel with bold Russian text following it.

I tell corp chat that he gave the damn 900,000 isk back to me again and asked if anyone knew what the Russian text meant. Players said no but someone said the universal translation was that he was pissed off due to the bold text, others agreed and everyone was telling me I should just stop. I told them no, I had decided to give 1 million isk away and I was gonna stick with it so I gave the 900,000 isk back to the Russian for the 3rd time, linked his name in chat with bold English text - STOP.

About 5 minutes later the Russian linked my name in chat again and typed in English - thanks, deal done, sending share of profit. Players in chat started laughing and telling me to just keep the damn 900,000 isk this time. I agreed and when I checked my wallet, the Russian player had given me 10 million isk.

I told chat and the news pretty much had everyone stunned. I linked the Russian's name in chat and typed in thanks with o7. He then linked my name with :) o7.

I will never forget that experience. Just goes to show you not everyone in this game is looking to scam.


And this is why no one ever writes up this kind of crap.

Most boring story ever. Thanks for the nap.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#38 - 2012-07-06 22:20:58 UTC
In general, I've found EVE players to be polite, friendly, and helpful. A few of them have killed me but the majority I've interacted with have been 'good guys'


Natsett Amuinn wrote:

And this is why no one ever writes up this kind of crap.

Most boring story ever. Thanks for the nap.

I liked it. A bit of a ramble but not bad.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-07-07 00:30:01 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Yeah, there's way too much attention being given to the dark side of this game.


About 3 1/2 years ago in corp chat, a Russian player stated in broken English - help, need 100k for big deal. pay back + share profit.

Everyone started saying it was a scam or the guy was lying, some calling him beggar and thief, telling him to GTFO, etc. I told chat that I would give the guy 1 million isk so that he had plenty of isk to work with. Everyone told me I wouldn't see that isk again, others said just give them the isk, etc. You know how it is.

So after I gave him the 1 million isk, a minute later he gives me back 900,000. I told chat about it and gave the 900,000 isk back. A minute later the same thing happens again. I tell chat again and return the 900,000 isk to the Russian. People in chat are telling me to stop, others are laughing. He once again returns the 900,000 and this time he links my name in chat channel with bold Russian text following it.

I tell corp chat that he gave the damn 900,000 isk back to me again and asked if anyone knew what the Russian text meant. Players said no but someone said the universal translation was that he was pissed off due to the bold text, others agreed and everyone was telling me I should just stop. I told them no, I had decided to give 1 million isk away and I was gonna stick with it so I gave the 900,000 isk back to the Russian for the 3rd time, linked his name in chat with bold English text - STOP.

About 5 minutes later the Russian linked my name in chat again and typed in English - thanks, deal done, sending share of profit. Players in chat started laughing and telling me to just keep the damn 900,000 isk this time. I agreed and when I checked my wallet, the Russian player had given me 10 million isk.

I told chat and the news pretty much had everyone stunned. I linked the Russian's name in chat and typed in thanks with o7. He then linked my name with :) o7.

I will never forget that experience. Just goes to show you not everyone in this game is looking to scam.

Madoff paid people off well. Got a whole lot of great word of mouth with the high returns he paid to a few to sucker money out of thousands of others.
You have no clue who I'm talking about.

FYI - the character you're referring to never was in Republic University NPC Corp.
Rath Kelbore wrote:

yeah but what about band camp.
Thanks for confirming you have nothing to contribute to this thread topic besides a fail attempt at trolling.

Natsett Amuinn wrote:

And this is why no one ever writes up this kind of crap.

Most boring story ever. Thanks for the nap.
*Yawn*

And here's another one confirming he has nothing to contribute other than posting his usual troll remarks.

Definitely time for you to take a dirt nap.

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Doddy
Excidium.
#40 - 2012-07-07 00:56:06 UTC
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
I've spent the past 2-3 days at work reading stories of EVE. Obviously, these stories are highly entertaining, but they're always about scamming, treachery, lying, backstabbing, double crossing and generally acting like turds. It's apart of the game. I get it.


Quote:
Boudicca Arbosa
Aegis Requiem.
Byzantine Empire
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Quote:
Byzantine Empire


as a student of history, this makes me laugh. out loud.


You mean the thousand year empire that used its forces more to defend its walls from the Ottomans than they used it for force and expansion?


Every time it could possibly expand it did, mainly on the grounds it was all theirs to begin with right? it just lost in the end. It was most certainly known as a military juggernaught, after all the islamic armies that eventually conquered it all started out as minor auxilliaries in its its huge military. Of course there never actually was a "byzantine empire", it is just a term used by western europeans to differentiate it from the roman empire before the fall of the western half of the empire. Its people called themselves "Roman".

In any case their infamous treachery (generally in getting western crusaders to fight muslims for them) gave the wetstern christian world the term "byzantine politics" which is pretty much an awesome description of the "bad guys" in eve do with their metagaming, scamming, exploiting etc.
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