Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There has been lots of tweaks concerning supercapitals. Like all buffs&nerf CCP has done before, these tweaks comes and goes in between being overpowered or useless.

When we inspect a similar case ( not that similar but will be explained ) in subcaps, we found out there is a solution ( an unexpected one but yes, its a solution ) for this problem.

Battleships,

We have a wide variaty of battleships which can excel in multiple roles. However, they are not a dreadful power due to a couple of reasons.
One of them is Stealth bombers.


Stealth bombers are being used to vaporate bs fleets without outblobling them.

With the same analogy we can solve the titan problem.

- Stealth BS sized bombers. ( We can even use Black ops ships ).

* Can fit Citadel sized torpedoes with huge dmg bonus ( not on par with sieged dreds ) with huge explosion radius which deals a small amount of damage everyship except supercapitals.
* Can fit cov ops cloak
* Can use Citadel Bombs, which acts like normal bombs but affective on supercapitals ( huge explosion radius again ).
* no tank, poor ressists.


Your comments please.

Same case as stealth bombers.
A stealth bomber cannot deal massive damage on a frigate, even painted + webbed. High explosion radius should solve the problem

I think this would actually be a better role for a battlecruiser-size ship, since they still need some agility to be able to escape from supercap escort vessels. Also, as yet there are no BC-sized covops. This also might be a use case for a spinal-mount weapon; rather than solve the issue with explosion radius, solve it with movement mechanics -- anything smaller than a supercap would simply move out of the way.

This would be cool, and not too OP, since an AB BS could speed tank those torps.

As weird as it seems to me, I really like and support this idea.

More of a size thing. There is no way that a BC would be able to fit the launchers.

Oh god, no more ships with mismatched weapons please.

Yes, the Stealth Bomber also got these large additions so that siege launcher can fit. It needs some time so that you can see the T1-vessel in a stealth bomber. I think these adds must be made in both cases for BS and BC´s.

I would say cruisers really.
Fitted with 3 bomb launchers and 4 torpedo launchers, leaving space for 1 cov ops cloak.

A battleship or even battlecruiser, is just way to sluggish and will just be killed in seconds, for not being able to warp away fast enough.

Compare them:
SB, warp to 30, drop bomb, warp away, rinse repeat.
BSSB or BCSB, warp to 50, drop bomb, wait to align, get locked, pew pew, boom, warp away in pod.

You could of course try tediously to pre-align to something, which would make it go like this:
Warp to 70, align to something which has the target in between it, uncloak when at 50 km, drop bomb, warp off, rinse, repeat.

But the issue with that would be, that you initial warp in point ( if your opponent has any active braincells ) will be swarming with baddies, when going for your second run, or your third one, which means you have to go through a lot of work to get a new warp in point every single round.

Use "Compact Citadel Torpedoes," like what Fighter-Bombers have (at least lore-wise), but loads existing capital munitions.

I'm thinking maybe destroyer-size?

I've beaked-off about this concept a lot in the past, and I used to think that a BC-size chassis was right, but now I'm thinking Destro would be better. They already have 8 hi slots, so 5 Compact CitaTorps, 2 bomb-launchers, and the cloak in the highs.

4/5 mids, 2/3 lows, enough grid and CPU to fit a medium shield extender or 400mm plate with a T2 resist-profile--not too tanky, but these things would probably still need some tank in this application.

Not cruiser, though--too many T II cruiser chassis as it is. The Destroyer line could use more variation, as well.

Definitely not BS--much too expensive, and far too unwieldy. BLOPs can be buffed whilst retaining their current roles, plus evolving that a bit (ninja moon-POS hacking, anyone?) just fine.

(We'll save the Ti-2/T2--or maybe Ti-3/T2?--for the all-in-one CovOps capable combat-exploration ship, which is a new thread I've had a-brewing for a while. Watch this space)

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4-5 mid/2-3 lo slots for Caldari and Minni, reverse for Gallente/Amarr.