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Was PI the biggest waste of effort in EVE?
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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-07-03 20:27:50 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
* Vincent Athena hides huge pile of PI generated ISK under the bed.

Yep, totally worthless...


Well share your secret because I am not seeing that it is worth the effort.


Then you must be blind because there is a lot of isk to make from the PI market.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-07-03 20:29:54 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Why was this put into game? There are things you can make with the processing units and no market for them at all. So why is this broken system in game? Is CCP ever going to make PI worth the cost of training and ISK so that we don't feel like we've wasted time on it?


No, it wasn't. Captains Quarters was, and that waste will be extended into WiS. I didn't sign up to play WoW.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#23 - 2012-07-03 20:32:52 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Why was this put into game?
To move more of the market into the hands of the players and to make way for Dust 514.

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There are things you can make with the processing units and no market for them at all.
Such as…?
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#24 - 2012-07-03 20:33:20 UTC
@OP

No, moon mining in the south was, and still is the biggest waste of effort in Eve.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#25 - 2012-07-03 20:37:15 UTC
If I were CCP this is the kind of post that would make me tear my hair out. Basically it could be summarized as, "CCP, when are you going to stop beating my wife."
Gaellia Bonaventure
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-07-03 20:37:57 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:

No, WiS was the biggest waste of effort in Eve.


Beat me to it.

Bring your possibles.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-07-03 21:32:28 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Why was this put into game? There are things you can make with the processing units and no market for them at all. So why is this broken system in game? Is CCP ever going to make PI worth the cost of training and ISK so that we don't feel like we've wasted time on it?


I've made some nice things with PI that help make other nice things which make other nice things to eventually make a nice ship. With 4 characters I'm generating enough isk per month to pay with PLEX & buy a couple of nice Faction or Pirate ships... Or forever fund my suicide ganking habit P

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Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#28 - 2012-07-03 21:41:18 UTC
LOL! He put effort and P.I in the same sentence.

No trolling please
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#29 - 2012-07-03 21:48:46 UTC
PI is awesome, I make billions , and don't have to grind childish lvl 4s Blink

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Large Collidable Object
morons.
#30 - 2012-07-03 21:49:54 UTC
Fear not! Soon, hundreds of people will play an already dated looking console FPS to fight over your PI every month...
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-07-03 21:51:34 UTC
Another OP to confirm that most EVE-players really have no clue how to play this game.

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Ziranda Hakuli
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-07-03 22:01:45 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
* Vincent Athena hides huge pile of PI generated ISK under the bed.

Yep, totally worthless...


Well share your secret because I am not seeing that it is worth the effort.

12 PI toons....clicky clicky click.....carpal tunnel.....2 months later......3 new mice....advance carpal tunnel....clicky click click...surgery.....
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#33 - 2012-07-03 22:04:20 UTC
Be sure CCP will spend more resources on PI in next 12-18 months to make Dust bunnies less frustrated with FPS game which require months of skill training to purchase and mount vehicles instantly available in less-RPG FPS games.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-07-03 22:25:32 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Why was this put into game? There are things you can make with the processing units and no market for them at all. So why is this broken system in game? Is CCP ever going to make PI worth the cost of training and ISK so that we don't feel like we've wasted time on it?


You must be doing something wrong.
PI is one for the easiest and the lowest overhead way to make ISK in the game.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-07-03 23:37:18 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Be sure CCP will spend more resources on PI in next 12-18 months to make Dust bunnies less frustrated with FPS game which require months of skill training to purchase and mount vehicles instantly available in less-RPG FPS games.


lol @ the person who never played Dust yet thinks they know everything about a game they never played. Sounds like a PC user is butt hurt over it being PS3 only? I definitely sense the butthurt.
Frying Doom
#36 - 2012-07-04 00:05:12 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
I used to net about 2 bil a month from my PI army. That reminds me, I still need to start my PI back up.

Lies, all lies. PI is completely worthless and everyone (except me Smile)should stop doing it.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Alain Kinsella
#37 - 2012-07-04 01:31:53 UTC
Ziranda Hakuli wrote:
12 PI toons....clicky clicky click.....carpal tunnel.....2 months later......3 new mice....advance carpal tunnel....clicky click click...surgery.....

That was the first version, which did irritate my wrists.

The current version does not, and even with high-sec taxes (and one account) you can make a profit - probably not a PLEX though. However, like all major industry in Eve, you have to do the research to make it work.

"The Meta Game does not stop at the game. Ever."

Currently Retired / Semi-Casual (pending changes to RL concerns).
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#38 - 2012-07-04 01:36:56 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
I'm still hoping for the day when we can build cool stuff like universities on our planets and produce skillbooks & implants via PI.


This actually has the makings of a great idea.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-07-04 07:03:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Mechael wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
I'm still hoping for the day when we can build cool stuff like universities on our planets and produce skillbooks & implants via PI.


This actually has the makings of a great idea.

it's not my idea though.

there were screenshots of a Chaos build (which did at least look real) that showed what I described about two months before Tyrannis release - it seems that the idea was scrapped later on in the development process.
Remember that CCP initially described PI as having the same "feel" as Civilization or SimCity.

original thread (relevant posts are by "Aixa Syal")
screenshot #1
screenshot #2

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Alaya Carrier
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-07-04 07:14:09 UTC
In high season PI netted me about 46M per hour.

Not too shabby for a "waste" of feature.