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Making isk in nullsec as minmatar
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Philderbeast
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-07-03 06:12:40 UTC
ok call me a noob whatever but im a bit confused.

it seems to me the only way to avoid spending 1bil+ on a ship for me as a minmatar pilot to make decent isk solo in nullsec is for me to cross train to another race.

with the recent nerf to belt ratting, and the changes made some time ago it seems like its not possible for me to make more isk in null then i could in high sec, i know i can fleet up and its not a problem, but i would love to find a way to make more then ~5 mil a tick solo in null.. any help?
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#2 - 2012-07-03 06:19:20 UTC
I crossed trained gallente. Ishtar can either passive/active tank both shield and armor or sig+speed tank while doing 700+ dps with drones which makes it useable in all types of stpace (plus you have room for a cloak, salvagers and aggro gun)

You're only option is a Typhoon really. You need sick drone skills, Cruise missile or torps depending on your skills and maybe a salvager.

I'm not sure about what plexes to do, you would probably have to do EM/Thermal rats plexes (angels?) - in which case a muninn can tank incredible amounts of DPS... but sucks at damage

Beyond that a sliepnir or a varguur are you're main options.

Like i said, i trained gallente :/
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-07-03 06:31:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Onictus
Philderbeast wrote:
ok call me a noob whatever but im a bit confused.

it seems to me the only way to avoid spending 1bil+ on a ship for me as a minmatar pilot to make decent isk solo in nullsec is for me to cross train to another race.

with the recent nerf to belt ratting, and the changes made some time ago it seems like its not possible for me to make more isk in null then i could in high sec, i know i can fleet up and its not a problem, but i would love to find a way to make more then ~5 mil a tick solo in null.. any help?


Where do live? I can pull 14-15 a tick in NPC with a geddon...belt ratting
22 with a maelstrom doing scanables.....need an alt to follow it around though

You know what chain ratting is right?
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#4 - 2012-07-03 06:38:13 UTC
Philderbeast wrote:
ok call me a noob whatever but im a bit confused.

it seems to me the only way to avoid spending 1bil+ on a ship for me as a minmatar pilot to make decent isk solo in nullsec is for me to cross train to another race.

with the recent nerf to belt ratting, and the changes made some time ago it seems like its not possible for me to make more isk in null then i could in high sec, i know i can fleet up and its not a problem, but i would love to find a way to make more then ~5 mil a tick solo in null.. any help?

Get a maelstrom noob

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-07-03 08:08:04 UTC
You'll be fighting sansha right?

A) get a purifier (very quick cross train) and belt rat
B) Loki
C) any BS will do, Mael is prob the "best"
D) your in null sec therefore you can/eventually fly a drake

No Worries
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#6 - 2012-07-03 11:35:49 UTC
You are competely wrong. Get a Hound train it up to lvl 5 and you have a perfect and rather cheap ship for ratting in all 0.0 Space where Angel NPC are living in. For other places you might better indeed train for a different StealthBomber to match your damage boost with the NPC hole.
Euripedies
Hot Droppin Cherry Poppers
#7 - 2012-07-03 16:45:17 UTC
oh my gaad! if you arent making scads of isk, faster then you can spend it, ratting or anoms or exploring or whatever in null sec, then you need to work on your skills a bit. its all about your ability to kill rats quickly and not take much damage in the process. guns or missiles or whatever those other things are, focus on one, spend a few weeks on ship command. get a hurricane and T2 artillery, gryrostabilizers, tracking enhancers and kite the rats, only kill battle ships, isk rolls in. oh and fit a tractor beam and salvager on it too, isk continues to roll in.
get a hound, get covops to four use torps to kill battleships, move to next belt, do same, isk rolling in.

Maelstrom or Tempest, dps machines. T2 guns, gyrostabilizers and tracking enhancers, battleship V makes them pretty badass. they make a very proper sort of ride in null.
Kisogo Magellin
Kostura RnD
#8 - 2012-07-04 06:01:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Kisogo Magellin
Philderbeast wrote:
blahblah
with the recent nerf to belt ratting blahblah


There was a nerf to belt ratting? Straight

._.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-07-04 06:10:17 UTC
I fly Minmatar and I'm tempted to take my Hound out to null for some BS ratting. I won't do it though until I train Torp Spec to at least 4 and other missile supports maxed out.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#10 - 2012-07-04 07:41:24 UTC
Kisogo Magellin wrote:
Philderbeast wrote:
blahblah
with the recent nerf to belt ratting blahblah


There was a nerf to belt ratting? Straight


Can't chain rat anymore.
Euripedies
Hot Droppin Cherry Poppers
#11 - 2012-07-04 13:26:03 UTC
they say you cant chain rat anymore, but Ive noticed that when I clear the belts and begin chaining, the respawns included three battleships, two with bounties above 1.1 mil and one below 1 mil. so something is going on there.Shocked
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#12 - 2012-07-04 13:36:34 UTC
Euripedies wrote:
they say you cant chain rat anymore, but Ive noticed that when I clear the belts and begin chaining, the respawns included three battleships, two with bounties above 1.1 mil and one below 1 mil. so something is going on there.Shocked


BS spawns are random. So you can stack up each belt with the best rats. You get randomly assigned ones.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-07-04 14:45:31 UTC
Philderbeast wrote:
ok call me a noob whatever but im a bit confused.

it seems to me the only way to avoid spending 1bil+ on a ship for me as a minmatar pilot to make decent isk solo in nullsec is for me to cross train to another race.

with the recent nerf to belt ratting, and the changes made some time ago it seems like its not possible for me to make more isk in null then i could in high sec, i know i can fleet up and its not a problem, but i would love to find a way to make more then ~5 mil a tick solo in null.. any help?



1st what ship are you using

2nd what rats are you shooting

3rd how good are your gunnery/fitting skills?

Without this simple info it's impossible to give you the precise answer to your issue.

brb
Philderbeast
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-07-05 05:35:43 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Philderbeast wrote:
ok call me a noob whatever but im a bit confused.

it seems to me the only way to avoid spending 1bil+ on a ship for me as a minmatar pilot to make decent isk solo in nullsec is for me to cross train to another race.

with the recent nerf to belt ratting, and the changes made some time ago it seems like its not possible for me to make more isk in null then i could in high sec, i know i can fleet up and its not a problem, but i would love to find a way to make more then ~5 mil a tick solo in null.. any help?



1st what ship are you using

2nd what rats are you shooting

3rd how good are your gunnery/fitting skills?

Without this simple info it's impossible to give you the precise answer to your issue.


1, was using a vagabond, now using a mael and it ok, but not as good as i would like (but happy to accept im not going to get much better with out spending a lot more)

2, shooting Sansha rate

3, maxed out or level 4 for the ones that only affect some random mod i don't use most of the time.
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#15 - 2012-07-05 18:52:52 UTC
Artillery cane or Vagabond. Both are fine for solo ratting (which will depend on the rats) and solo pvp.

Players drop way better loot than rats anyways. Smile

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-07-05 19:56:46 UTC
Philderbeast wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Philderbeast wrote:
ok call me a noob whatever but im a bit confused.

it seems to me the only way to avoid spending 1bil+ on a ship for me as a minmatar pilot to make decent isk solo in nullsec is for me to cross train to another race.

with the recent nerf to belt ratting, and the changes made some time ago it seems like its not possible for me to make more isk in null then i could in high sec, i know i can fleet up and its not a problem, but i would love to find a way to make more then ~5 mil a tick solo in null.. any help?



1st what ship are you using

2nd what rats are you shooting

3rd how good are your gunnery/fitting skills?

Without this simple info it's impossible to give you the precise answer to your issue.


1, was using a vagabond, now using a mael and it ok, but not as good as i would like (but happy to accept im not going to get much better with out spending a lot more)

2, shooting Sansha rate

3, maxed out or level 4 for the ones that only affect some random mod i don't use most of the time.



Welp you should do fine with an 800's+EMP Mael, eventually warp at distance and use 1200's arty instead of 1400's, an 800's Mael can clean sanctums with not much of a problem.

brb